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Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 09 Mar 2018, 23:07
by KiwiRider
He said his body froze and he couldn't drop it. His team must have known California State regs say you can't attempt to drop any weight if you come in anything over 2 lbs.
What a bummer. I'm sure Scott will fight like it's all on the line, and career-wise a win here would give him a boost.
Won or lose, I find him an entertaining fighter, looking forward to this :bag:

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 09 Mar 2018, 23:19
by Evander
Is this Scott Quigg the gym rat ?

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 00:22
by Taansend
There's a lot more hidden sugar in the foods over here.

That's what f*cked Quigg up :OhYes:

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 02:16
by tobyh5
He did not look dry, gaunt or like there was / is not weight to come off IMO.


Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 03:53
by MikeH
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:12
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 19:50 Quigg is 2.5 over the limit, I doubt he'll make the weight.
Does that mean the fight goes ahead and the title will remain with Valdez regardless of the result ?
Might still be at stake for Valdez..
How does that work ?

Valdez makes weight Quigg doesn't.
Quigg can't win the strap but if Valdez loses then the title becomes vacant ... is that what your saying ?
WBO have confirmed that's what will happen

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 03:58
by Ruthless-RKO
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:12
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 19:50 Quigg is 2.5 over the limit, I doubt he'll make the weight.
Does that mean the fight goes ahead and the title will remain with Valdez regardless of the result ?
Might still be at stake for Valdez..
How does that work ?

Valdez makes weight Quigg doesn't.
Quigg can't win the strap but if Valdez loses then the title becomes vacant ... is that what your saying ?
Yes

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 03:59
by Deno1986
MikeH wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 03:53
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:12

Might still be at stake for Valdez..
How does that work ?

Valdez makes weight Quigg doesn't.
Quigg can't win the strap but if Valdez loses then the title becomes vacant ... is that what your saying ?
WBO have confirmed that's what will happen
If I’m not mistaken, I think it was a similar situation for the Andy Lee - Peter Quillin fight. Again it was the WBO.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 04:18
by Autobarn
Shirow wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 19:35 This is a problem with the extreme weight cutting that is standard these days. A boxer's body will just refuse to give up the fluids one day despite them doing their usual routine and they will have no clue it's about to happen as the only time they are ever within 10lbs of their weigh in weight is fight week.
Yes

And sometimes you hope you can do it, don’t inform people, think it’ll be ok, and then...

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 04:35
by Andrew
Unprofessional

1lb I may have let it slide a bit but 3lb is a joke !!

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 04:39
by Ruthless-RKO
First Frampton, now Quigg..

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 04:55
by Deno1986
Naandrew wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 04:35 Unprofessional

1lb I may have let it slide a bit but 3lb is a joke !!
Absolutely. Especially when you see the weigh in pictures. There is definitely 3lb there that could have been shed.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 05:42
by Rexob
Maybe water retention from flying difficult to get rid of, he doesn't look drained at all.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 06:05
by deadpan
thepocketrocket wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 17:17 Eaten too many crayons....
:bow:

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 06:31
by MightyWarrior
deadpan wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:05
thepocketrocket wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 17:17 Eaten too many crayons....
:bow:
Ouch.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 06:47
by dalcumly
Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 07:00
by mickeyb
dalcumly wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:47 Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?
Exactly. We have weight classes for a reason. Then again, prospects tend to feast on guys at least one weight below them these days.

Still, this was supposed to be a title fight, and Valdez is now facing a guy who isn't as drained and will be considerably bigger on fight night. Cutting the weight and rehydrating is one thing, but not NOT cutting the weight? Hope they give the money they dock from Quigg to Valdez.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 07:52
by Oiky
What a lemon

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:33
by Covfefe
3lb over too. That’s not even close.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:35
by Covfefe
TheLeprechaun wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 18:38 Terrible from Quigg. Disgusting.
:lol:

Disgusting is a bit strong.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Do boxers not do a quick weight check before they step on to the official scales?

If he knew he was 3 pounds over, or just over anyway, could they not tell the CSAC or Valdez's camp.. Embarrassing stepping on the scale and missing weight by a mile.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:44
by tobyh5
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 08:41 Do boxers not do a quick weight check before they step on to the official scales?

If he knew he was 3 pounds over, or just over anyway, could they not tell the CSAC or Valdez's camp.. Embarrassing stepping on the scale and missing weight by a mile.
Maybe they did, but they still need to get on the official scales in order that there is a fight.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:46
by Covfefe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 08:41 Do boxers not do a quick weight check before they step on to the official scales?

If he knew he was 3 pounds over, or just over anyway, could they not tell the CSAC or Valdez's camp.. Embarrassing stepping on the scale and missing weight by a mile.
They’ve probably known he would miss weight all week.

They definitely check weight prior to weighing in, I think it was John Murray who’d weighed in perfectly back at the gym came to the weigh in and had put 1/4 of a pound on in half an hour without eating anything, it had something to do with the floor they were weighing him in at the gym. Stripped of the title going int8 the fight.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:47
by BigDoofus
Rexob wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:42 Maybe water retention from flying difficult to get rid of, he doesn't look drained at all.
If he's based in the States this isn't an issue.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 08:52
by Ruthless-RKO
tobyh5 wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 08:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 08:41 Do boxers not do a quick weight check before they step on to the official scales?

If he knew he was 3 pounds over, or just over anyway, could they not tell the CSAC or Valdez's camp.. Embarrassing stepping on the scale and missing weight by a mile.
Maybe they did, but they still need to get on the official scales in order that there is a fight.
yeh, definitely needs to get on the official scales. I'm just wondering if anyone else apart from his camp would know before.. Or they would tell the CSAC before they step on to the scales.

Re: Scott Quigg - missed the weight

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 09:33
by SenorPipino
MikeH wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 03:53
Evander wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 20:12

Might still be at stake for Valdez..
How does that work ?

Valdez makes weight Quigg doesn't.
Quigg can't win the strap but if Valdez loses then the title becomes vacant ... is that what your saying ?
WBO have confirmed that's what will happen

I was just thinking.

Why should a champion lose his title if the challenger wins but was officially overweight?

Technically Valdez would be fighting an over-the-weight bout so why should his 126 lb. championship be on the line?

It seems unfair to the titleholder.