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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15

Wales wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 23:26

KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 14:34

Let's remember Parker is 26 and a fairly limited Am background and a lot shorter with a lot less reach who wasn't allowed to fight on the inside.
Taking that into consideration, AJ should have wasted him.

Let’s also remember Parker has been a pro longer and has had more pro fights.
Limited amateur career?
Parker’s father, Dempsey Parker, who was named after Jack Dempsey started his son boxing at 3 years old. Boxing was in the Parker families blood,
Parker had 68 senior amateur bouts and more as a junior.

On the other hand AJ first walked into a boxing gym at 18, and only had 43 amateur contests .

End of the day AJ pretty much dominated the widely regarded #3 in the HW division .

I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.

jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15 I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.

Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36

jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15 I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.

Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.

I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 11:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36

jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33

Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.

I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..

Parker won three rounds clearly, perhaps four. So, 117-111 or 116-112.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:10

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 11:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36

I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..

Parker won three rounds clearly, perhaps four. So, 117-111 or 116-112.

Yet non of the 3 judges had him winning more than 2.
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They were wrong, obviously.

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.

He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:59

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.

He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.

Yes.

Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:46 I would love to see AJ vs the southpaw Ortiz since no doubt he will take one more before Wilder.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:47

Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:46 I would love to see AJ vs the southpaw Ortiz since no doubt he will take one more before Wilder.

I'd pay for that one.

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:51

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:47

Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:46 I would love to see AJ vs the southpaw Ortiz since no doubt he will take one more before Wilder.

I'd pay for that one.

Ortiz (Jennings/Tompson version) would have been a competitive opponent. I doubt it for the after-Wilder version.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:53

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:51

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:47

I'd pay for that one.

Ortiz (Jennings/Tompson version) would have been a competitive opponent. I doubt it for the after-Wilder version.

We don't know yet where he's at.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:58

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:53

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:51

Ortiz (Jennings/Tompson version) would have been a competitive opponent. I doubt it for the after-Wilder version.

We don't know yet where he's at.

Precisely. We don't know what the affects of the loss will be.
No matter what an experienced southpaw with world class skills is a handful for anyone

man wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:42 boxing history showed that every man finds
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.

happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.

top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:43

man wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:42 boxing history showed that every man finds
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.

happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.

top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...

Just stating that is a change from the last fifteen days! Nice post. Honest.

man wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:44

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.

maybe you reached that conclusion
a little ... quickly?

Grailer wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 05:05 Compubox has the fight a draw.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 06:53

Grailer wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 05:05 Compubox has the fight a draw.

Oh FFS! What a fûckîng silly claim!