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Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 16:05
by dagilechia
I expect Parker to be level above Whyte in this fight. Dillian never impressed me, some people seem to be impressed just because he landed "that" punch vs Joshua but before this fight no one even ranked him in top 30. Whyte have beaten no one so far, arguably lost to Chisora, his best win is Helenius, the same Helenius that have been koed in 6 by Duhaupas. Browne is old small inactive and overrated. Beating Browne is as impressive as beating Stiverne.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 16:21
by jujigatame
Is this getting televised in the US?
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 16:25
by dagilechia
I guess Takam vs Chisora will be more one sided than Joshua Povetkin
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 17:19
by candyslim
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 15:38
candyslim wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 13:20
Yes it's the best heavyweight fight on the schedule, sorry AJ, sorry Sacha yours is pretty damn good too but this is one that can so easily go either way. My heart says Whyte but my head says Parker, but both have my total respect and I like them both too. Dillian is an amiable dickhead, but he's our (UK's) amiable dickhead. Parker is a gentleman and has remained so in the face of fierce provocation from the aforementioned.
I think the attitude shown by both these fighters put the likes of Wilder and also Miller (who I've been banging the drum for) to shame. Really Jarrell, Artur Szpilka seriously?
No, Szpilkas promoter said this fight will not happen, it's like 90% that Szpilka will fight Wach. But Adamek declared that hes ready to fight Miller
Tomasz Adamek? F *ck me he's older than I am. Miller could be battering the b'jesus out of Pulev, Ortiz even Jennings but no, he goes after Szpilka or Adamek. Is this some kind of weird psychological thing, you know ... I can't fight Kownacki bcoz we're friends so instead I'll prove my point beating on his distant cousins back in Poland?
I believe Miller has what it takes. It's a shame he doesn't appear to agree with me.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 18:51
by funso banjo baby
credit to everyone involved.
two top level fights
probably wont be fireworks....but you never know?
If Whyte can manage to stop Parker he'll be in much better position.
Takam should have enough for Chisora
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 23:43
by gregregegg
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 16:05
I expect Parker to be level above Whyte in this fight. Dillian never impressed me, some people seem to be impressed just because he landed "that" punch vs Joshua but before this fight no one even ranked him in top 30. Whyte have beaten no one so far, arguably lost to Chisora, his best win is Helenius, the same Helenius that have been koed in 6 by Duhaupas. Browne is old small inactive and overrated. Beating Browne is as impressive as beating Stiverne.
Did you just call Lucas brown small? no doubt wasnt looking world class, but a guy that is 6'5 and 264 pounds can hardly be discredited as an opponent for being too small.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 02:54
by Lackeos
Parker vs Whyte is pretty awesome. By anyone's guess right now, they must be on a very similar caliber. After Joshua, Wilder, Fury, Povetkin, Ortiz, and Pulev; you have to have Parker, Whyte, and Miller somewhere in the next 3 spots. The betting odds seem to have Joseph Parker a 5:6 favorite. The division doesn't often offer fights this closely matched between 2 top 10 fighters.
Takam vs Chisora most likely won't change the landscape of the division. Both of these guys have been tested pretty thoroughly. However, both of these fighters have few wins against opponents close to their own abilities. Chisora beat Malik Scott; that's about it. Takam beat Tony Thompson, and that's about all. A second win against an opponent of similar abilities does give that back-up evidence that the winner is as good as we thought. I have Takam as the favorite, but the matchmaking is still close enough to appreciate.
Nick Webb vs David Allen is interesting. Nick Webb has been a bit of a dark horse prospect-ish in England. Undefeated, a somewhat intuitive opponent for Joyce, Gorman, and Dubois; but none of the three have chosen to go after him. Despite being undefeated, Webb has also not beaten anyone decent, and David Allen would be his clearly best opponent. Boxrec has Webb and Allen as the #13 and #15 British heavyweights; so this fight will help to distinguish the winner as the alpha British stepping stone, among the other British stepping stones -- Cornish, Sexton, and Price. It is also yet another reasonably-matched fight, although the betting odds give Webb an 80-83% chance of winning.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 04:02
by KiwiRider
gregregegg wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 23:43
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 16:05
I expect Parker to be level above Whyte in this fight. Dillian never impressed me, some people seem to be impressed just because he landed "that" punch vs Joshua but before this fight no one even ranked him in top 30. Whyte have beaten no one so far, arguably lost to Chisora, his best win is Helenius, the same Helenius that have been koed in 6 by Duhaupas. Browne is old small inactive and overrated. Beating Browne is as impressive as beating Stiverne.
Did you just call Lucas brown small? no doubt wasnt looking world class, but a guy that is 6'5 and 264 pounds can hardly be discredited as an opponent for being too small.

Yeah, I missed that triple greg.
Browne has skinny legs giving him a high centre of gravity. Gosh he was terrible, I was so surprised how badly he had deteriorated.
If anyone thinks Browne and Helenius is good preparation for going up against parker, well, in the words of Mr T, "I pitty the fool"
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 06:12
by dagilechia
gregregegg wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 23:43
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 16:05
I expect Parker to be level above Whyte in this fight. Dillian never impressed me, some people seem to be impressed just because he landed "that" punch vs Joshua but before this fight no one even ranked him in top 30. Whyte have beaten no one so far, arguably lost to Chisora, his best win is Helenius, the same Helenius that have been koed in 6 by Duhaupas. Browne is old small inactive and overrated. Beating Browne is as impressive as beating Stiverne.
Did you just call Lucas brown small? no doubt wasnt looking world class, but a guy that is 6'5 and 264 pounds can hardly be discredited as an opponent for being too small.
I have exaggerated with calling him small, but he's not 6'5, 6,4 at best. He isnt small but still old inactive and overrated
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 09:18
by Rob3_142
I think I am probably in the minority here, but i think Whyte can get the upset.
Prior to the Joshua fight, Parker's performances have not been impressive, and even the Joshua fight, I believe he fought within himself. Whyte has continued to improve at a consistent level, and he collected his biggest win in impressive fashion against Browne. Okay let's be honest, none of us were bowled over with Browne, but not many picked Whyte to win so easily before the fight.
You have to credit both fighters here as a loss for either drops them into obscurity. Of course both can come again, but they'll have to return to a bit of climbing.
How the fight pans out depends a lot on how Parker approaches the fight (mostly because I think Whyte only has one approsch). If he goes like the Joshua fight, Whyte could spend most the fight chasing Parker round the ring, and it'd be a narrow points win for one of them. If Parker comes to trade, I think Whyte has the power to get the job done.
Please note, I have been really impressed with the Whyte jab. This will be instrumental in any win.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 10:40
by jamamb
theres plenty of ppl going for whyte bruh, me included. the betting odds are super close btw
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 17:28
by KiwiRider
Lookie at Del Boy!
Bless him, he's been to the gym and looks great ( for him) and we all know Takem always comes in premium condition. I wasn't that excited for their fight, but if Del gives it his all, like he did against Whyte, it may be a good fan friendly watch

Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 03:33
by Enlightened-One
I expect Takam and Whyte to emerge victorious, with both of their victories coming by way of decision.
Just for a giggle, I’m also going to predict the victors of the entire fight card:
• Dillian Whyte
• Carlos Takam
• Katie Taylor
• Joshua Buatsi
• Conor Benn
• Nick Webb
• Anthony Fowler
• Frank Buglioni
• Charlie Duffield
• Richard Riakporhe
Thoughts?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 06:33
by KiwiRider
I think you pretty much have it tight EO.
If Paynaud is allowed to win, I think he can, now he has had a full camp . And I'm not sure if I'm biased with Parker, but I think he can beat Whyte.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 08:23
by candyslim
Well I'm biased for Whyte but I would go for Parker if I was forced to bet. He certainly can beat Whyte and Whyte certainly can beat him. It's such a fascinating matchup and I think it'll be a good spectacle too. Clever tactic of Dillian's calling Parker a coward thus encouraging Parker to disprove this nonsense by fighting how Dillian would want him to fight.
Many will say this isn't a title fight, neither are these guys household names, ergo it's not a PPV fight.
Me, I'd rather pay to see a really competitive match up rather than a super-star against a mere mortal, and besides that both these guys deserve respect for taking on such a tough challenge, and I want to add my two penn'orth (ok, twenty quid'orth) to help make sure the event is a success, and both fighters get their maximum reward. Plus I trust Eddie to put on a good show they're generally leaving me feeling I got my money's worth.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 10:25
by Rob3_142
These are the kind of fights that should be rewarded. They're both taking a significant risk. Rather than a big name taking on a B level fighter for big bucks.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 10:38
by skanksta
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 13:00
Solid card among contenders, and fringe contenders. I wish we'd see more fights like this being made. Too many guys these days just pad their record
until they get a title shot. Contenders vs Contenders is always nice to see.
I would agree with you, BUT IT'S PPV !
They're not really risking anything - this is their bigtime.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 10:51
by skanksta
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 16:05
I expect Parker to be level above Whyte in this fight. Dillian never impressed me, some people seem to be impressed just because he landed "that" punch vs Joshua but before this fight no one even ranked him in top 30. Whyte have beaten no one so far, arguably lost to Chisora, his best win is Helenius, the same Helenius that have been koed in 6 by Duhaupas. Browne is old
small inactive and overrated. Beating Browne is as impressive as beating Stiverne.
That one thing isn't true - "Big Daddy' Browne isn't small.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 10:53
by candyslim
The risk is that people might not buy it. I always take a good look at the whole card before making up my mind and it's not always the headliner that reels me in.
First time it was Joshua v Molina and no way was I tempted.Then I saw the main support was Whyte v Chisora which I wasn't going to miss if I could do anything about it.
They did not let me down and the fact they are together on the bill I'm taking as a positive omen.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 07:35
by Heretic
Is Whyte better than Takam?
Hard to say. I think Takam might be the better boxers. Whyte is more active thou.
If Takam was From UK and the Takam vs Parker happened there I think Parker would have lost it. Parker needed the home advantage to get the win.
I think that the fight will be quite even and Whyte will get the decision.
Should be good fight to watch
Am I the only one who thinks than Takam will win against Chisora quite easily? Well maybe not easily but clearly?
I thought he was pretty much done when I saw him"fight" against Kabayel...
Well Chisora is usually fun to watch so this should be good night for boxing

Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 11:30
by Bard of Boxrec
I’m surprised the books have whyte/ Parker this close. I think Parker will win a comfortable decision.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 17:14
by dagilechia
What a surprise, what a fight - im so sad for Takam because i really like him and ranked him high, chisora is still game but unfortunately unprepared and unmotivated Chisora is 20% Chisora. I would like to see either Takam or Chisora in a fun fight vs Kownacki
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 17:16
by Enlightened-One
Takam-Chisora is fight of the year for me. An absolute cracker and I'm utterly delighted about being proven wrong about my prediction.

Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 17:23
by ValMar
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 17:16
Takam-Chisora is fight of the year for me. An absolute cracker and I'm utterly delighted about being proven wrong about my prediction.
Yes, Chisora is so unpredictable.
Re: Parker / Whyte and Chisora/ Takam
Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 18:08
by Enlightened-One
Even though Joseph Parker os a skilful boxer with quick hands, his lack of power may be the reason why he loses to Dillian Whyte.