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Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 05:03

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 04:56

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 04:24

You've made no attempts to tell me who was filing Pacquiao's taxes. You clearly don't know anything about his situation and are just speculating.

By the way, I don't even file my own taxes. I'm sure someone with Pacquiao's educational background knows the ins-and-outs, though.

Are any of the points I've raised incorrect?

Do they not accurately reflect reality?

This forum is filled to the brim with die-hard Pacquiao fans, but they've refrained from challenging the points raised in my posts, because they know that I'm simply speaking the truth.

You can try to employ red herring diversionary debating tactics if you want, as a weak attempt to move the topic of discussion onto safer ground for yourself, but this won't work, because I am speaking the truth... and knowledgeable boxing fans know this too.

Still waiting for what I asked. All you have done is speculate. You always put out information out of context then talk about facts. Instead all you provide are biases and a homotional agenda. It's your signature.

I listed several factually correct points, which you flatly refuse to address.

Instead, you want to discuss Pacquiao's accountants rather than directly addressing these points, because you cannot challenge my words, so you try to move the topic of discussion onto something else.

Do you need a reminder of the facts that I listed, which you blatantly ignore?

Are Pacquiao's own words insufficient evidence for you?

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 05:03

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 04:56

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 04:24

You've made no attempts to tell me who was filing Pacquiao's taxes. You clearly don't know anything about his situation and are just speculating.

By the way, I don't even file my own taxes. I'm sure someone with Pacquiao's educational background knows the ins-and-outs, though.

Are any of the points I've raised incorrect?

Do they not accurately reflect reality?

This forum is filled to the brim with die-hard Pacquiao fans, but they've refrained from challenging the points raised in my posts, because they know that I'm simply speaking the truth.

You can try to employ red herring diversionary debating tactics if you want, as a weak attempt to move the topic of discussion onto safer ground for yourself, but this won't work, because I am speaking the truth... and knowledgeable boxing fans know this too.

Still waiting for what I asked. All you have done is speculate. You always put out information out of context then talk about facts. Instead all you provide are biases and a homotional agenda. It's your signature.

What sort of game are you playing? You refuse to any address any of the points I raised but instead you demand that I discuss the accountancy firm employed by Pacquiao?

Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

Pacquiao has not only admitted his misdemeanors and transgressions but also apologised and attempted to make atonement for them.

As far as the tax matter goes, if we judge by the way some multinational uber-corporations, politicians, and even filthy rich footballers operate, his main crime seems to be in taking bad financial advice and consequently getting caught.

Obviously no one condones tax evasion, but who totally agrees with the way the governments spend their money? I bet no one who actually works for the government -despite what they might say. I'd be far more
worried if any of the rumours of illegal ped use were substantiated. Right now they are just rumours.

The way of the world is always one of compromise and rules get blurred all the time. It's up to each individual where they draw their moral line.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:55 Pacquiao has not only admitted his misdemeanors and transgressions but also apologised and attempted to make atonement for them.

As far as the tax matter goes, if we judge by the way some multinational uber-corporations, politicians, and even filthy rich footballers operate, his main crime seems to be in taking bad financial advice and consequently getting caught.

Obviously no one condones tax evasion, but who totally agrees with the way the governments spend their money? I bet no one who actually works for the government -despite what they might say. I'd be far more
worried if any of the rumours of illegal ped use were substantiated. Right now they are just rumours.

The way of the world is always one of compromise and rules get blurred all the time. It's up to each individual where they draw their moral line.

I’m glad that you have enough integrity to recognise Manny’s misdemeanours.

Everyone is entitled to what they deem to be morally correct or not. And I am not concerned if you decline to hold any of Pacquiao’s historical bad behaviour against him.

My concern relates to the Filipino’s die-hard fans that flatly refuse to either comment on or even recognise Manny’s troubled past… and on the few occasions that they will admit to him committing certain transgressions, they always hold someone else accountable other than placing the blame solely on Pacquiao’s shoulders

They also fail to understand the fact that Manny is a politician and that he knows how to portray himself in a positive light. And what I mean by this, is that he understands that being charitable and paying a couple of millions of dollars to charity will result in him receiving an overwhelming amount of support from the public, despite him owing roughly $70m in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments.

People are entitled to their own opinions, so I don’t really care if they support him or not, but I do believe that they aren’t entitled to their own facts. Manny is responsible for his own actions and he has made many mistakes that should not be swept under the carpet, simply because we admire his sporting prowess.

Gambling, flirting with woman and drinking alcohol is illegal to you EO?

Are u retarded?

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:19 Gambling, flirting with woman and drinking alcohol is illegal to you EO?

Are u retarded?

Not paying taxes is illegal unless a moron like you thinks otherwise. Did you conveniently exclude that particularly pertinent point I raised and even dwelled on, simply because it undermined your attempt at a smart alec remark?

The rest of the stuff Manny gets up to simply determines the constitution of his moral character.

The Filipino’s fans portray Manny as some sort of heroic and angelic superhuman that we should all admire, when that is clearly far from the truth.

Pacquiao seems to fall into the Muhammad Ali people pleasing camp rather than Mike Tyson's live today/screw tomorrow sheer hedonism.

Like Ali he's allowed his entourage and his church to account for a large percentage of his almost biblical career earnings. Boxers like these often seem to be not only highly impulsive in their spending but wide open to exploitation as they live in the moment with little regard for the future.

Perhaps no boxer really likes to look too far ahead. What can later life compensate for being on top of the world now?

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:19 Gambling, flirting with woman and drinking alcohol is illegal to you EO?

Are u retarded?

EO has emotional/psychiatric issues. Just put him on ignore list.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 15:40 I tell you what, if am a troll, a forum moderator is welcome to issue me with a permanent ban if any of my claims relating to Manny Pacquiao are factually incorrect.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 14:00 I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Better get to writing...

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:25

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:19 Gambling, flirting with woman and drinking alcohol is illegal to you EO?

Are u retarded?

Not paying taxes is illegal unless a moron like you thinks otherwise. Did you conveniently exclude that particularly pertinent point I raised and even dwelled on, simply because it undermined your attempt at a smart alec remark? :lol:

The rest of the stuff Manny gets up to simply determines the constitution of his moral character.

The Filipino’s fans portray Manny as some sort of heroic and angelic superhuman that we should all admire, when that is clearly far from the truth.

That would exclude over 85% of boxers because anyone who makes a substantial amount in the entertainment industry will have the IRS on their tail. Anyone. Name a fighter and chances are, he's had tax problems at one point.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 13:58

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:25

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 08:19 Gambling, flirting with woman and drinking alcohol is illegal to you EO?

Are u retarded?

Not paying taxes is illegal unless a moron like you thinks otherwise. Did you conveniently exclude that particularly pertinent point I raised and even dwelled on, simply because it undermined your attempt at a smart alec remark? :lol:

The rest of the stuff Manny gets up to simply determines the constitution of his moral character.

The Filipino’s fans portray Manny as some sort of heroic and angelic superhuman that we should all admire, when that is clearly far from the truth.

That would exclude over 85% of boxers because anyone who makes a substantial amount in the entertainment industry will have the IRS on their tail. Anyone. Name a fighter and chances are, he's had tax problems at one point.

In the usa the irs seems like a criminal organization, who asks for money without any perfect scheme.

In uk or germany i never heard of boxers having tax problems.

Boxer has a fight, organized by a promoter, the promotion company gets money from television companys and advertising contracts and the tax office automaticly takes a certain % of the money and there are never problem because in germany tax office take the money automaticly or you have the show the amounts of money very fast, so everything is clear transparant. I am certain it is the same uk. Spain is a stupid country with lazy people, no wounder they arent able to make it transparent what messi and ronaldo did.

Guess irs is stupid too.

Back on topic for a split second-

I thought the main event was the least entertaining bout on the bill

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:17 Back on topic for a split second-

I thought the main event was the least entertaining bout on the bill

Manny did what he always does. Produce action.

Matthysse was tentetive and rarly threw punches. He was boring.

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:19

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:17 Back on topic for a split second-

I thought the main event was the least entertaining bout on the bill

Manny did what he always does. Produce action.

Matthysse was tentetive and rarly threw punches. He was boring.

Exactly. It takes 2 to tango, and Matthysse wasn't up for it. How Manny would have looked against a "live" opponent, we will have to wait until next time. I was a last minute sign on for the PPV, thankfully I absolutely enjoyed the undercard and was underwhelmed by the main event- not blaming Manny though. He was fit and ready to rumble.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 05:03

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 04:56
Are any of the points I've raised incorrect?

Do they not accurately reflect reality?

This forum is filled to the brim with die-hard Pacquiao fans, but they've refrained from challenging the points raised in my posts, because they know that I'm simply speaking the truth.

You can try to employ red herring diversionary debating tactics if you want, as a weak attempt to move the topic of discussion onto safer ground for yourself, but this won't work, because I am speaking the truth... and knowledgeable boxing fans know this too.

Still waiting for what I asked. All you have done is speculate. You always put out information out of context then talk about facts. Instead all you provide are biases and a homotional agenda. It's your signature.

What sort of game are you playing? You refuse to any address any of the points I raised but instead you demand that I discuss the accountancy firm employed by Pacquiao?

Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

So he didn't handle his finances himself then. Okay, we're getting somewhere now.

Guy is a nutty Christian. Doesn't make him a bad guy. Being a bigot doesn't change all the charity he's done, does it.

The tax thing. As I said, you don't have any first-hand information. You just stated that Pacquiao did not do his finances all those years ago.

Pacquiao was raised on the damn streets. The guy's morals were obviously not great growing up. He seems to have changed a great deal since then. So we judge him from his past and forget all the good he's done?

If you're talking about the Mayweather fight, you are obviously done. This has been debated to hell and back. You said he's refused year-round testing, and I showed you you were wrong. He also ended up doing the drug testing for the fight anyways and it turns out his opponent was the one roiding all along.

As I said, all your points are just speculation and homotional ranting. You have absolutely nothing here.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 21:28

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 05:03

Still waiting for what I asked. All you have done is speculate. You always put out information out of context then talk about facts. Instead all you provide are biases and a homotional agenda. It's your signature.

What sort of game are you playing? You refuse to any address any of the points I raised but instead you demand that I discuss the accountancy firm employed by Pacquiao?

Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

So he didn't handle his finances himself then. Okay, we're getting somewhere now.

Guy is a nutty Christian. Doesn't make him a bad guy. Being a bigot doesn't change all the charity he's done, does it.

The tax thing. As I said, you don't have any first-hand information. You just stated that Pacquiao did not do his finances all those years ago.

Pacquiao was raised on the damn streets. The guy's morals were obviously not great growing up. He seems to have changed a great deal since then. So we judge him from his past and forget all the good he's done?

If you're talking about the Mayweather fight, you are obviously done. This has been debated to hell and back. You said he's refused year-round testing, and I showed you you were wrong. He also ended up doing the drug testing for the fight anyways and it turns out his opponent was the one roiding all along.

As I said, all your points are just speculation and homotional ranting. You have absolutely nothing here.

So you believe that each point I raised wasn't factually correct, so essentially it didn't happen in the real world and Manny isn't responsible for any wrongdoing?

Any person possessing a modicum of integrity and moderate intellect, even if they fûckîng despised me, knows that my words are the truth.

You just accuse me of being WRONG, but without actually challenging any of the points I raised head on.

You underlined sentences without even writing a damn thing about any of those words.

I showed you enough courtesy and answered your question, so now ot's time for you to either answer mine or shut the fûck up!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 00:52

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 21:28

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36
What sort of game are you playing? You refuse to any address any of the points I raised but instead you demand that I discuss the accountancy firm employed by Pacquiao?

Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

So he didn't handle his finances himself then. Okay, we're getting somewhere now.

Guy is a nutty Christian. Doesn't make him a bad guy. Being a bigot doesn't change all the charity he's done, does it.

The tax thing. As I said, you don't have any first-hand information. You just stated that Pacquiao did not do his finances all those years ago.

Pacquiao was raised on the damn streets. The guy's morals were obviously not great growing up. He seems to have changed a great deal since then. So we judge him from his past and forget all the good he's done?

If you're talking about the Mayweather fight, you are obviously done. This has been debated to hell and back. You said he's refused year-round testing, and I showed you you were wrong. He also ended up doing the drug testing for the fight anyways and it turns out his opponent was the one roiding all along.

As I said, all your points are just speculation and homotional ranting. You have absolutely nothing here.

So you believe that each point I raised wasn't factually correct, so essentially it didn't happen in the real world and Manny isn't responsible for any wrongdoing?

Any person possessing a modicum of integrity and moderate intellect, even if they fûckîng despised me, knows that my words are the truth.

You just accuse me of being WRONG, but without actually challenging any of the points I raised head on.

You underlined sentences without even writing a damn thing about any of those words.

I showed you enough courtesy and answered your question, so now ot's time for you to either answer mine or shut the fûck up!

What you're doing is stating motives without having any evidence to back your claim. As someone mentioned, it seems to be pretty common that fighters are terrible with finances. You're jumping the gun and saying Pacquiao evaded taxes because he's a bad person. You are not being factually correct here at all. All you are doing is speculating and getting all emotional like a girl. It's okay, you are wrong. Just face it.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 01:22

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 00:52

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 21:28

So he didn't handle his finances himself then. Okay, we're getting somewhere now.

Guy is a nutty Christian. Doesn't make him a bad guy. Being a bigot doesn't change all the charity he's done, does it.

The tax thing. As I said, you don't have any first-hand information. You just stated that Pacquiao did not do his finances all those years ago.

Pacquiao was raised on the damn streets. The guy's morals were obviously not great growing up. He seems to have changed a great deal since then. So we judge him from his past and forget all the good he's done?

If you're talking about the Mayweather fight, you are obviously done. This has been debated to hell and back. You said he's refused year-round testing, and I showed you you were wrong. He also ended up doing the drug testing for the fight anyways and it turns out his opponent was the one roiding all along.

As I said, all your points are just speculation and homotional ranting. You have absolutely nothing here.

So you believe that each point I raised wasn't factually correct, so essentially it didn't happen in the real world and Manny isn't responsible for any wrongdoing?

Any person possessing a modicum of integrity and moderate intellect, even if they fûckîng despised me, knows that my words are the truth.

You just accuse me of being WRONG, but without actually challenging any of the points I raised head on.

You underlined sentences without even writing a damn thing about any of those words.

I showed you enough courtesy and answered your question, so now ot's time for you to either answer mine or shut the fûck up!

What you're doing is stating motives without having any evidence to back your claim. As someone mentioned, it seems to be pretty common that fighters are terrible with finances. You're jumping the gun and saying Pacquiao evaded taxes because he's a bad person. You are not being factually correct here at all. All you are doing is speculating and getting all emotional like a girl. It's okay, you are wrong. Just face it.

Stop making vague unsubstantiated accusations and instead justify them by quoting each claim I made and then proving to me that it never happened in the real world.

Quote my words and challenge each point head on.

You won't be able to do it, because you cannot rewrite history.

The best you can do is provide fabricated excuses to attempt to justify Manny's actions, but you cannot possibly pretend that real world events that Pacquiao was in control over didn't occur.

Do you have enough intelligence to either remember the claims I made (or read through them again) or do you need me to spoon feed you and list them as bullet points?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36
Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

- Dear Outed Frightened One, the above has nothing to do with Manny being the most entertaining fighter of his era, but everything to do with your serial heterphobic and Filipinophobic rantings that in turn have nothing to do with you being no more than a serial copy and past tabloid media expert wannabe.

Arum handled Manny's purse taxes and produced the papers showing he'd paid US taxes when the issue was first raised. Manny lives in the Philippines operating at the highest level of government...End of.

Cockfighting is legal in most areas of the world you dummy, and drinking alcohol don't make everyone an alcoholic, nor does gambling make everyone an addict. I'll leave Manny's sex life between him and his wife where it belongs and his taxes to his accountants and any governments making claims. He flies around the world in good standing.

The family with serial felony crimes against women and drug dealing are the Mayweathers, ya musta forgot. TUE 50-0 is the one who got busted for PED use that he bought his way out of with an exemption and the one Hauser picked for his epic PED abuse investigation. TUE the one who had at least two purses seized by the IRS back to back, Marquez and Mosley, not Manny. TUE has never undergone random Olympic drug testing that proves another thing.

You're a serial liar and probably a cheat as well, overall about as thick as a brick, and as bloodsucking as a tick, and moreover, ya can't bust a grape with a sledgehammer.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 13:16

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 15:40 I tell you what, if am a troll, a forum moderator is welcome to issue me with a permanent ban if any of my claims relating to Manny Pacquiao are factually incorrect.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 14:00 I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Better get to writing...

1,225 pages...or will you accept the permanent ban instead?

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 11:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36
Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

- Dear Outed Frightened One, the above has nothing to do with Manny being the most entertaining fighter of his era, but everything to do with your serial heterphobic and Filipinophobic rantings that in turn have nothing to do with you being no more than a serial copy and past tabloid media expert wannabe.

Arum handled Manny's purse taxes and produced the papers showing he'd paid US taxes when the issue was first raised. Manny lives in the Philippines operating at the highest level of government...End of.

Cockfighting is legal in most areas of the world you dummy, and drinking alcohol don't make everyone an alcoholic, nor does gambling make everyone an addict. I'll leave Manny's sex life between him and his wife where it belongs and his taxes to his accountants and any governments making claims. He flies around the world in good standing.

The family with serial felony crimes against women and drug dealing are the Mayweathers, ya musta forgot. TUE 50-0 is the one who got busted for PED use that he bought his way out of with an exemption and the one Hauser picked for his epic PED abuse investigation. TUE the one who had at least two purses seized by the IRS back to back, Marquez and Mosley, not Manny. TUE has never undergone random Olympic drug testing that proves another thing.

You're a serial liar and probably a cheat as well, overall about as thick as a brick, and as bloodsucking as a tick, and moreover, ya can't bust a grape with a sledgehammer.

Your comments are out-of-context with the flow of conversation that I was having with SOMEONE ELSE!

Many of your claims are also factually incorrect, based on a combination of Manny's very own words, coupled with his current tax debt .

You've also conveniently side-stepped other points that I've raised, simply because you realise that you cannot challenge them.

No member of this forum has attempted to challenge each point I've raised head-on and tried to undermine its factual-accuracy. Instead all I keep seeing are excuses.

An excuse for the existence of a fact, does not render the aforementioned fact none existent.

Other forum members that are knowledgeable of the sport of boxing, even those that despise me and wholeheartedly support Pacquiao, admit that my claims are true, since they clearly acknowledge that history cannot be rewritten to adhere to our preferred narrative!

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 11:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 07:36
Michael Kocz used to handle Pacquiao’s finances and the Filipino chose to turn a blind eye to his financial troubles when he chose to fire the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed to perform an audit, after they raised numerous irregularities, which occurred a couple of years before Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments came to light.

There you go, I’ve answered your question… now answer mine!

Did Nike terminate Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract due to conveying several homophobic bigoted remarks?

Is Manny Pacquiao responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in owed taxes to both the US and Philippine governments?

Did Manny Pacquiao confess to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling?

Has Manny Pacquiao ever refused several opportunities to receive eight figure paydays due to his reluctance to undergoing random unannounced blood-based drug testing?

- Dear Outed Frightened One, the above has nothing to do with Manny being the most entertaining fighter of his era, but everything to do with your serial heterphobic and Filipinophobic rantings that in turn have nothing to do with you being no more than a serial copy and past tabloid media expert wannabe.

Arum handled Manny's purse taxes and produced the papers showing he'd paid US taxes when the issue was first raised. Manny lives in the Philippines operating at the highest level of government...End of.

Cockfighting is legal in most areas of the world you dummy, and drinking alcohol don't make everyone an alcoholic, nor does gambling make everyone an addict. I'll leave Manny's sex life between him and his wife where it belongs and his taxes to his accountants and any governments making claims. He flies around the world in good standing.

The family with serial felony crimes against women and drug dealing are the Mayweathers, ya musta forgot. TUE 50-0 is the one who got busted for PED use that he bought his way out of with an exemption and the one Hauser picked for his epic PED abuse investigation. TUE the one who had at least two purses seized by the IRS back to back, Marquez and Mosley, not Manny. TUE has never undergone random Olympic drug testing that proves another thing.

You're a serial liar and probably a cheat as well, overall about as thick as a brick, and as bloodsucking as a tick, and moreover, ya can't bust a grape with a sledgehammer.

Good post.

What means TUE

On top of being a criminal floyd is as boring as it gets and a serial liar.

Floyd said 10000 times before his fights from 2007-2015 how action packed his fights will be and how he is the most entertaining boxer to watch. What happened than after all this talk? Boring fights where for the most time he was being tentetive waiting running and holding.

Now years later he finaly reveals the truth and often said

"After the gatti fight my body broke down i had to fight in a more different careful style. More defensive"

So he lied all the years to his wins who were hoping he d dominate opponents.like he did against corrales or gatti in a entertaining fashion, but got trapped by floyd who always talked about he would bring action although he always knew he would fight in a pus;&:y way because his body broke down.

Now finaly he admits it.

That is also the obvious reason why chickenweather never wanted any part with brutal aggressive opponents like prime pac, prime margarito or prime 6 feet 2 williams, but instead he was fighting undersized marquez, hatton, old pac, old mosley, talentless berto, talentless mcgregor etc.

Sorono wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 15:33

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 11:48Dear Outed Frightened One, blah... blah... blah...

Good post.

Whilst you guys are patting yourselves on the back for persistently employing red herring debating tactics (trying to divert the attention of other readers away from my words), by mostly articulating fabricated lies, you’ve still both failed to address any of the following facts:

• Pacquiao personally fired the accountancy firm (VisionQuest) he originally employed, after they reported numerous irregularities with his finances, which was shortly prior to Manny’s huge tax debts to both the Philippine and US governments being made public.

• Manny Pacquiao is legally deemed solely responsible for owing tens of millions of dollars in unpaid taxes to both the US and Philippine governments. The buck stops with him.

• Nike terminated Pacquiao’s multi-million promotional contract after he conveyed several homophobic bigoted remarks.

• Manny Pacquiao has publicly confessed to indulging in cockfighting, alcoholism, adultery and gambling.

• Manny Pacquiao has refused to accept opportunities to receive eight figure paydays to engage in one or more bouts, due to his reluctance to undergo random unannounced blood-based drug testing.

You guys keep talking about all sorts of random stuff and have also cited fabricated excuses, under the pretence that all of the above historical facts of reality I've listed are untrue.

Anybody that knows anything about boxing, even if they fµck¡ng despised me, would not dare to have the audacity to challenge any of the above facts I’ve raised, since everything that I’ve stated is 100% accurate!

What do you guys think his most entertaining fight was? Marquez IV? I enjoy a couple of the really one-sided ones like De la Hoya and Barrera I for how crazily overwhelming his offense was. The first two Morales fights are also great.

squiggy wrote: ↑17 Jul 2018, 18:59 What do you guys think his most entertaining fight was? Marquez IV? I enjoy a couple of the really one-sided ones like De la Hoya and Barrera I for how crazily overwhelming his offense was. The first two Morales fights are also great.

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Or one of the morales fights
Also the margarito fight