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Great stuff this. That's how it should be. Two of the best in the division want to fight so the promoters sort it no messing. FW has made a right mug of matchroom ha

Datsue wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:17

ALI wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:12 Fury looked poor last night. He was in against a plodder and should have been blasting bombs on him till he dropped, can anyone imagine that bloke going 12 with Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield?

It's a good job Fury might not have to fight Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield soon then, innit mate?

How many rounds do you think that bloke would have gone vs Joshua or Wilder last night? I know Fury needed the rounds, but the bloke was such a sitting duck, Fury should have got him out of there, i feel all of the top level heavyweights would have based on how he plodded forward last night.

There’s more than one way to skin a cat. I thought it was quite obvious Fury was after rounds last night. He upped it a little towards the end a couple of times but decided he didn’t want to over exert and was happy to get the win by decision.
Having said that, thought he still looked quite poor but as mentioned in commentary, he does sometimes fight beneath himself.

If we see the Fury of old, I think he’ll win and possibly stop Wilder late. If his last two are anything to go by, he’s getting knocked out.

I’m backing Tyson to do the business

ALI wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 12:05

Datsue wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:17

ALI wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:12 Fury looked poor last night. He was in against a plodder and should have been blasting bombs on him till he dropped, can anyone imagine that bloke going 12 with Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield?

It's a good job Fury might not have to fight Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield soon then, innit mate?

How many rounds do you think that bloke would have gone vs Joshua or Wilder last night? I know Fury needed the rounds, but the bloke was such a sitting duck, Fury should have got him out of there, i feel all of the top level heavyweights would have based on how he plodded forward last night.

Do you feel he tried to get him out of there?

Even in the last round when he threw anything serious he walked off him afterwards and didn’t go for the stoppage. It seemed clear to me last night was about rounds not stopping him.

Datsue wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:16

paddy chavez wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:11 I'm a bit surprised so many are picking Fury here his main advantage over other heavyweights is his size and mobility but wilder is nearly as tall and faster and of course he has real power.i think it's to early for Fury and he'd get KO'd it could be early it could be late but wilder will land at some point.

The thing is, I thought Wilder was absolutely evens for nine or ten rounds (can't remember how long it lasted off the top of my head)P with Szpilka (sp?), & all he did was move his head & keep jabbing. & Szpilka's utter dogshite.

He was also getting clearly outboxed by the big American football player Washington until he lowered the boom.

It's not so far-fetched to see such an inept fella simply not know what to do against a mobile guy with a bit of nous who keeps pecking & poking him & then getting out of the way. It's Wilder's terrible technique that makes it seem even, & the fact that Fury seems to still have his wheels.

Like I've said, I wouldn't bet on it unless the odds are silly, but it doesn't require too much imagination to see Deontay swing & miss for twelve rounds.

I agree on much of that I just don't think Fury will be be able to go 12 without getting caught and even if he wins the first 10 rounds I think wilder would come out all guns blazing and catch Fury

Going to go with Fury in this one. He avoided Wlad's bombs for 12 rounds and won. He has done it before, he can do it again.

These two are going to act like muppets in the build up to the fight. I don't think I am going to be alone in not watching any youtube content relating to this fight.

Datsue wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:17

ALI wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:12 Fury looked poor last night. He was in against a plodder and should have been blasting bombs on him till he dropped, can anyone imagine that bloke going 12 with Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield?

It's a good job Fury might not have to fight Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield soon then, innit mate?

I can't see Fury being given a decision over Wilder in the US, so he better find a way to stop him.

Loftgroov wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 17:13 I can't see Fury being given a decision over Wilder in the US, so he better find a way to stop him.

He got the nod over Wlad in the Klitschko's favoured back yard so maybe he can do it in Vegas too.

Be a wide points win for fury, wherever it's held

wilder pretty much always gets best case scenario judging so far and will be a side again in america....couldve easily been scored multiple points down vs ortiz and washington, and szpilka was super close yet they gave wilder almost everything on 2 cards

i think fury gets stopped but he could lose a decision to if wilders simply in the fight, and wildee does often go later in fights, might be worth a bit of a bet on decision if all the odds hugely lean to ko

Loftgroov wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 17:13 I can't see Fury being given a decision over Wilder in the US, so he better find a way to stop him.

The judges do definitely favor Wilder inexplicably in the U.S. as the Szpilka and Ortiz fights showed, but those guys didn't really have the backing of a big time promoter of their own which Fury does.

Wilder's only chance of winning on the cards would be multiple knockdowns I figure. He'll be looking for the KO though.

Oiky wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 17:25 Be a wide points win for fury, wherever it's held

Wilder ain't coming for a staring contest. He's coming for a knockout.

brian13 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 15:15 Going to go with Fury in this one. He avoided Wlad's bombs for 12 rounds and won. He has done it before, he can do it again.

These two are going to act like muppets in the build up to the fight. I don't think I am going to be alone in not watching any youtube content relating to this fight.

Wlads bombs? Was there anything even resembling a bomb threw in that fight?

I get the impression Fury was trying out certain things for the Wilder fight by leaning all over Pianeta and fighting on the inside - there were some new Hatton-esque moves with the stepping to the side and putting his head on Pianeta's chest etc.

Maybe the plan is to put the extra 40 pounds to use to minimise the risk of getting outspeeded and caught at range. It's not like Wilder is known for his inside game or stamina.

dookus wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 19:19 I get the impression Fury was trying out certain things for the Wilder fight by leaning all over Pianeta and fighting on the inside - there were some new Hatton-esque moves with the stepping to the side and putting his head on Pianeta's chest etc.

Maybe the plan is to put the extra 40 pounds to use to minimise the risk of getting outspeeded and caught at range. It's not like Wilder is known for his inside game or stamina.

Pianeta is the perfect person to bring in to replicate a Deontay Wilder for definite.....

dookus wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 19:19 I get the impression Fury was trying out certain things for the Wilder fight by leaning all over Pianeta and fighting on the inside - there were some new Hatton-esque moves with the stepping to the side and putting his head on Pianeta's chest etc.

Maybe the plan is to put the extra 40 pounds to use to minimise the risk of getting outspeeded and caught at range. It's not like Wilder is known for his inside game or stamina.

That's true. The uppercuts on the inside were what ultimately dropped Ortiz though so he's got that in his arsenal. It wouldn't be a bad idea though to throw him a curveball, and fight him in such a way he wouldn't anticipate.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 17:53Wlads bombs? Was there anything even resembling a bomb threw in that fight?

Wlad threw some powershots, it's just that they were inquisitive one-offs rather than commanding bases (Ron™). After taking Joshua's best (albeit fight-enders), he must kick himself for giving Fury's offence so much respect.

Wilder's on a high after coming back versus Ortiz, and even though Fury carried Pianeta a bit, that's surely boosted his confidence further. If Wilder isn't reluctant to engage, and on evidence of Fury's KO form there's a good chance he won't be, Fury's looking at surviving some real danger to come out the other side. If he can he should win, but when did he last sit down on his punches and hurt someone good? Because with Wilder's momentum and newfound belief in his chin, that's shaping up to be a huge factor.

I've no doubt that Wilder wouldn't go ham against Joshua, which is why, on paper, this is a much better fight for him.

People always wondered, "What would have happened if Klitschko was more aggressive in his match with Fury?" and we will see that kind of fight when Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury meet.

It'll be the toughest and most meaningful match of their entire careers. Emmanuel Stewart said these two men would be the champions after Klitschko's time was over and done. This is for the true, genuine lineal title. It gets no bigger or better than this.

Fury is going to have to be in identical shape, focus, and determination as he was in 2015. This will be a far bigger mountain to climb than Klitschko because Wilder, no matter how frustrated he is, will throw punches forever chasing the knockout. He won't do as Klitschko did, staring and wondering what to do with the puzzle in front of him.

I had absolutely no doubts when Fury fought Klitschko. This fight, is a little bit different. I believe Fury can and will win, but this will be one hell of a battle where people are hitting the floor and thr blood will fly. These two men have too much pride and self belief in themselves to let it just be a tactical battle. They'd sooner rather die than lose, and would rather go into a comatose state with irreversible damage than to than to not give everything they got.

It's different fighting contenders. It's a whole other level between two undefeated men who equally have a claim to being the best in the world.

Forget about Anthony Joshua... He didn't answer the call... Though the winner of this will surely shame him into putting all the other belts on the line... But this match in Las Vegas between two giants may as well be called MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE because nobody can claim to beat the winner of this shoot out.

I love Tyson Fury; I hope he weighs no more than 254, though I'd love to see him be 247, and I know that when he fight it's not a matter of money, but "the old men and the old women, the young men and the young women," as Bartley Gorman, King of the Gypsies said. He refuses to embarrass himself (in the ring), let alone all those present, past, and future of his bloodline.

Jesus bless him and his family.

My prediction, as of now, is that Fury wins a very competitive majority decision over Wilder; however I would not be surprised if the match was even called a draw because of Wilder's advantages (American audience, judges, etc) as well as Wilder's non-stop punches.

jameswilson wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 19:21

dookus wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 19:19 I get the impression Fury was trying out certain things for the Wilder fight by leaning all over Pianeta and fighting on the inside - there were some new Hatton-esque moves with the stepping to the side and putting his head on Pianeta's chest etc.

Maybe the plan is to put the extra 40 pounds to use to minimise the risk of getting outspeeded and caught at range. It's not like Wilder is known for his inside game or stamina.

Pianeta is the perfect person to bring in to replicate a Deontay Wilder for definite.....

bahahhaa, well, yes, one thing doing that against Pianeta, and quite another against a living being

If fury fights like we know him to, an extremely defensive fight, barely throwing a punch. How will that go down with the judges.

For me, he is going to have to deliver some more offensive skills to win over the judges.

With wlad it was fairly predictable that someone who wouldn't let him set his feet and get set would beat him, because he needed everything to be perfect before launching a big attack. With wilder he will launch an attack with no care for technique and this could easily swarm Fury unless he starts to make wilder regret jumping in by landing his own huge shots.

My other concern is that fury seems to be leaving his guard very low in all his training videos, that may work against sefari and pianta, but he will need to be careful v wilder.

Tough fight, fair play for taking it, but it is a big ask for either man to win.

nitro5912 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2018, 04:34 If fury fights like we know him to, an extremely defensive fight, barely throwing a punch. How will that go down with the judges.

For me, he is going to have to deliver some more offensive skills to win over the judges.

With wlad it was fairly predictable that someone who wouldn't let him set his feet and get set would beat him, because he needed everything to be perfect before launching a big attack. With wilder he will launch an attack with no care for technique and this could easily swarm Fury unless he starts to make wilder regret jumping in by landing his own huge shots.

My other concern is that fury seems to be leaving his guard very low in all his training videos, that may work against sefari and pianta, but he will need to be careful v wilder.

Tough fight, fair play for taking it, but it is a big ask for either man to win.

That's the thing,Fury doesn't throw huge shots,i can't ever remember him throwing anything like that in his whole career,clubbing punches yes but not anything with snap behind them.

I think Furys Confidence in and out the ring and mind games are a great attribute in fights ,
Laughing and joking , making you miss etc can be quite demoralising. When he's switched on he is very focused also and will be Against Wilder. might not be most exciting to watch but something just very intriguing watching Fury in the ring , especially against someone that can take people clean out.

Can see a lot of Wilder missing and Fury Goading him but will need to be very good to do it for 12 rounds

Not watched it in some time but I seem recall Wlad catching Fury clean with a straight Right very late on but Fury made it through.

Fury needs a competitive fight before engaging Wilder. Rounds he got but not the 'under fire' rounds he will encounter against Wilder. It will be a shock to the system and one that will not go away after a round or two. It is not enough.

When Lennox lost his title to Mccall he boxed contenders to get back to into contention and had a very tough bout versus Ray Mercer in the fight before challenging for the title. It got him ready. Fury has the potential and the pedigree but has not had the preparation. He will find this out the hard way; during the fight.

LOL at this!!