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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 17:17
by jamamb
benavidez is a bit green i think
ya nice unbeaten record but really very few fights vs anyone of note and i had him losing to herrera. he hasnt really done much at 147. i think being young and unbeaten he may at least have ambition, but its not a win that really would add much to crawfords standing in my eyes
ya, you can for sure find worse title defenses, but at crawfords elite level, he needs better names to really progress his spot in the sport i feel. hes a guy with lots of good wins but no real standout wins.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 08:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Apparently, TC best be on his A-game here. But Benavidez is no bigger than TC. Horn was much bigger.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 08:48
by ironbeard
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:20
Apparently, TC best be on his A-game here. But Benavidez is no bigger than TC. Horn was much bigger.
Benavidez Jr. is longer, not bigger. While he certainly is NOT 6’2” as Boxrec claims, he is likely 5’11” with about a 72” reach. That is enough of an advantage length-wise to potentially give TC some trouble.
Of course, Postol is approximately the same dimensions and TC essentially skunked him. Benavidez Jr. is more crafty / gifted than Postol, IMO. He will need that and great heart to have a chance vs TC. Benavidez Jr’s best hope is to lure TC in, hurt him and get him to brawl. TC is not as accurate in those situations and he leaves himself more open to return fire.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 08:48
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 08:50
by ironbeard
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:06
by Ruthless-RKO
ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:50
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:11
by ironbeard
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:50
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Boxrec did not even have it on the frontpage schedule until about 20 minutes ago.
Benavidez had a relatively near death experience, being shot and nearly bleeding out. That can steel a person mentally, and physically to achieve more.
This is a dangerous fight for Crawford.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:11
by Gnome
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:50
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Crawford has a very good hometown following, I've heard, they get great gate figures for his fights.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:15
by ironbeard
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:11
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:50
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Crawford has a very good hometown following, I've heard, they get great gate figures for his fights.
Granted, but why hasn’t ESPN promoted it better?
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:17
by Ruthless-RKO
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:11
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:06
ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 08:50
Maybe, but it drew some attention to a fight where an undefeated record must go.
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Crawford has a very good hometown following, I've heard, they get great gate figures for his fights.
Yeh they must do. It’s over 10,000 seats and he’s the loca boy. It’s good he had a great following. I think most his fights will take place here. Or the Pinnacle. Bigger fights eg Spence etc. Will be New York or Nevada.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:20
by Gnome
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:17
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:11
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:06
Yeh. There was literally no build up to this fight. Got announced lowkey. It’s in Omaha where we’re likely going to see more TC fans.
Crawford has a very good hometown following, I've heard, they get great gate figures for his fights.
Yeh they must do. It’s over 10,000 seats and he’s the loca boy. It’s good he had a great following. I think most his fights will take place here. Or the Pinnacle. Bigger fights eg Spence etc. Will be New York or Nevada.
Let's hoping he puts on a good show and his fans travel with him. Bellew putting himself forward as an Everton fan and fighting at Goodison helped grow a loyal fanbase, Crawford might be onto a good thing.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:25
by Ruthless-RKO
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:20
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:17
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:11
Crawford has a very good hometown following, I've heard, they get great gate figures for his fights.
Yeh they must do. It’s over 10,000 seats and he’s the loca boy. It’s good he had a great following. I think most his fights will take place here. Or the Pinnacle. Bigger fights eg Spence etc. Will be New York or Nevada.
Let's hoping he puts on a good show and his fans travel with him. Bellew putting himself forward as an Everton fan and fighting at Goodison helped grow a loyal fanbase, Crawford might be onto a good thing.
A lot of UK boxers make it known which club they support. Football is the biggest sport in the UK no doubt. Boxers know through Football, they can grow a fanbase too. Bellew used to come on to the pitch at half time etc. Make a few appearances. They end up on shows like Soccer AM etc. Mix and match with footballers on Sky Sports News as well.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:29
by Gnome
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:25
Gnome wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:20
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 09:17
Yeh they must do. It’s over 10,000 seats and he’s the loca boy. It’s good he had a great following. I think most his fights will take place here. Or the Pinnacle. Bigger fights eg Spence etc. Will be New York or Nevada.
Let's hoping he puts on a good show and his fans travel with him. Bellew putting himself forward as an Everton fan and fighting at Goodison helped grow a loyal fanbase, Crawford might be onto a good thing.
A lot of UK boxers make it known which club they support. Football is the biggest sport in the UK no doubt. Boxers know through Football, they can grow a fanbase too. Bellew used to come on to the pitch at half time etc. Make a few appearances. They end up on shows like Soccer AM etc. Mix and match with footballers on Sky Sports News as well.
Crawford could do that with the Huskers or the Stormchasers (the latter has a great minor league baseball field, went there a few moons ago). Or maybe he has already

Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 13:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Stats and Stakes
Terence Crawford
Age: 31
Title: WBO welterweight (2018-Present, 1stattempted defense)
Previous Titles: WBO Lightweight (2014-15, 2 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring Lightweight (2014-15); WBO Light Welterweight (2015-17, 6 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. welterweight (2016-17, 3 Defenses); WBA Super Lightweight (2017); IBF Jr. Welterweight (2017)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 145 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Omaha, Nebraska
Record: 33-0, 24 KO
Press Rankings: #1 (BoxRec)
Record in Major Title Fights: 11-0, 8 KO
Last Five Opponents: 116-7-1 (.940)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Ricky Burns UD12; Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO9; Rey Beltran UD12; Viktor Postol UD12; Julius Indongo KO3; Jeff Horn TKO9
vs.
Jose Benavidez Jr.
Titles: None
Previous Titles: None (held interim WBA belt at 140 lbs.)
Age: 26
Height: 5’10
Weight: 145 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Phoenix, Arizona
Record: 27-0, 18 KO
Press Rankings: Unrated
Record in Major Title Fights: 1st major title opportunity (2-0, 1 KO in interim title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 134-26-4 (.829)
Current/Former World Champions Faced: 0
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 13:10
by Ruthless-RKO
The Pick: The promotion of this fight might have added to its allure but it’s hard to shake the idea that this really won’t be all that close. Benavidez has faced one truly world-class fighter to date. He walked away with a controversial decision over Mauricio Herrera and hasn’t been matched near that level since. Instead, one could argue that he’s been protected based on his matchmaking.
The challenger has some pop, a height advantage, and quick hands. Crawford has the edge in almost every category besides height. He appears quicker, is more fluid, more experienced, and while listed as orthodox has shown he can go almost an entire fight as capably from the southpaw stance. He also carries the sort of old school mean streak that would make a James Toney proud. Benavidez did his part to help sell the fight. Crawford will do the rest. Stranger upsets have happened but this feels like an easy Crawford pick with Benavidez perhaps sticking around to hear his fate on points.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 13:15
by squiggy
I agree. The best realistic outcome for Benavidez is that he makes Crawford work for it.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:35
by ironbeard
Show starting. Not sure if there is a prelim.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:37
by ironbeard
Shakur Stevensen vs Viorel Simion up.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:42
by ironbeard
Rd 1 = Ward manages Stevenson. Simion aggressive. Shakur floors Simion twice. Third KD. Ref calls it at bell.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:44
by ironbeard
Beautiful right hooks against an over matched old man.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:45
by jamamb
i read that shakur has 3 managers, that seems weird and needless
nice performance
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:46
by ironbeard
Ring girlz’ makeup is scary tonight.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:49
by Lairdy
jamamb wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 22:45
i read that shakur has 3 managers, that seems weird and needless
nice performance
I'm pretty sure it's also illegal under US law. There would only be one manager on contracts and so on.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:52
by ironbeard
Shakur seems like an authentically good kid.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Jr. - October 13, 2018
Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 22:54
by jamamb
maybe, but never go on little snips and interviews
didnt he just get arrested for assault or drunken disorder? i wonder if that was legit