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samwbr wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 04:50

tobyh5 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 04:42

samwbr wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 04:41

12 dominant rounds or a big bad tko. I know what I'd rather see.

And your response relates to the point in what way?

No one asked what you would rather see, as I am sure most would agree with you and of course I do too. You used the word "dominant" and defended it and I responded to that, not what you, me or anyone else would rather see.

KO is the biggest act of dominance in the sport.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 04:45 People can like or dislike all they want and for a variety of reasons at the end of the day.

Just seems a little weird bringing promoters in to it!

I’m not a massive fan of Joshua, although I am a fan. I think he’s great for the sport. He’s the type who has the kids wanting to go down their local gym and try boxing and that’s a massive positive.

youngrell wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 05:52 My take on it is that most haters actually hate the hype and surroundings rather than the fighter himself. People want to see the hangers on and hype men humbled more than they do Joshua.

He really couldn't be more crowd pleasing, but when Povetkin breaks his nose and wobbles him at the end of a round, you still get Adam Smith etc claiming he's controlling the fight. It turns people off and makes them want to see him come up short to shut these people up.

Like I say, not the fighters fault, just the people and hype that surrounds him. Maybe they should be more humble like their hero.

youngrell wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 05:52 My take on it is that most haters actually hate the hype and surroundings rather than the fighter himself. People want to see the hangers on and hype men humbled more than they do Joshua.

He really couldn't be more crowd pleasing, but when Povetkin breaks his nose and wobbles him at the end of a round, you still get Adam Smith etc claiming he's controlling the fight. It turns people off and makes them want to see him come up short to shut these people up.

Like I say, not the fighters fault, just the people and hype that surrounds him. Maybe they should be more humble like their hero.

samwbr wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 03:35 Knockouts are quite dominant.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 06:04

youngrell wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 05:52 My take on it is that most haters actually hate the hype and surroundings rather than the fighter himself. People want to see the hangers on and hype men humbled more than they do Joshua.

He really couldn't be more crowd pleasing, but when Povetkin breaks his nose and wobbles him at the end of a round, you still get Adam Smith etc claiming he's controlling the fight. It turns people off and makes them want to see him come up short to shut these people up.

Like I say, not the fighters fault, just the people and hype that surrounds him. Maybe they should be more humble like their hero.

Smith is a total pudendum. Someone needs to break his nose

banjo wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 06:50 By the way was AJ supposed to do him in one round or something?

This was a top fighter he was fighting.

coneye wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 23:18 Can't understand , the hate some seem to show for AJ , when you look at how fast he has been moved and how he has kept dispatching the guys in front of him , its got to be a great effort , OK we have all had the shits because he has'nt fought Wilder but lets have it right , Wilder has been just has bad in making excuses , , he'll sign for Fury but not AJ without dates , ect ect ect .

But looking at AJ last night , I personaly had rnds
1-2 Poletvkin
3-4 AJ
5 even
6 -AJ rnd 7 does'nt matter .

But for me 2 things stood out about this fight

1---- Poletvkin was a LOT better than i gave him credit for , , I know he was good , but had'nt relized how good he still was , i think the Poletvkin who fought AJ , stops Wilder , simply because Wilder has'nt the defence to keep him off , a early ko is Wilders only chance ,,,, Fury on the other hand i think if he's back to form , out boxes Poletvkin easy , style make fights

2---- How much Aj has actually improved , Ok he got caught , and actually hurt , but he recovered , you cannot fight a guy has good as Poletvkin , and not get caught sometime or another , , I always put Aj down has a big lumbering muscle bound , Frank Bruno clone ,, but i think he's actually starting to loosen up , get better footwork , faster hands , and a better boxing brain , and doing all this while a 3 belt holder , , how good is he eventually going to become , when in his learning fights he's beating these guys , ... Like others have pointed out in other threads , look at Wilders record after 22 fights , look at Furys record , whats comparable , they both beat Vlad , and thats all . I know most were not impressed by AJ'S fight last night , but i think he gave a good performance , he weathered some heavy blows , which would off stopped others , and came back boxing smart enough to get back in the fight and do what no one else has done

brilo33 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 10:30

coneye wrote: ↑22 Sep 2018, 23:18 Can't understand , the hate some seem to show for AJ , when you look at how fast he has been moved and how he has kept dispatching the guys in front of him , its got to be a great effort , OK we have all had the shits because he has'nt fought Wilder but lets have it right , Wilder has been just has bad in making excuses , , he'll sign for Fury but not AJ without dates , ect ect ect .

But looking at AJ last night , I personaly had rnds
1-2 Poletvkin
3-4 AJ
5 even
6 -AJ rnd 7 does'nt matter .

But for me 2 things stood out about this fight

1---- Poletvkin was a LOT better than i gave him credit for , , I know he was good , but had'nt relized how good he still was , i think the Poletvkin who fought AJ , stops Wilder , simply because Wilder has'nt the defence to keep him off , a early ko is Wilders only chance ,,,, Fury on the other hand i think if he's back to form , out boxes Poletvkin easy , style make fights

2---- How much Aj has actually improved , Ok he got caught , and actually hurt , but he recovered , you cannot fight a guy has good as Poletvkin , and not get caught sometime or another , , I always put Aj down has a big lumbering muscle bound , Frank Bruno clone ,, but i think he's actually starting to loosen up , get better footwork , faster hands , and a better boxing brain , and doing all this while a 3 belt holder , , how good is he eventually going to become , when in his learning fights he's beating these guys , ... Like others have pointed out in other threads , look at Wilders record after 22 fights , look at Furys record , whats comparable , they both beat Vlad , and thats all . I know most were not impressed by AJ'S fight last night , but i think he gave a good performance , he weathered some heavy blows , which would off stopped others , and came back boxing smart enough to get back in the fight and do what no one else has done

you want too see the hate fury gets

tobyh5 wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 04:34

samwbr wrote: ↑23 Sep 2018, 03:35 Knockouts are quite dominant.

No, they are conclusive, not dominant.

Happy Slapper wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 06:58 I can understand the hate - it's the Sky and Eddie hype machine that people hate.

As for AJ himself, he's been brilliant for the sport. Likeable, has engaged the general public, knocks people out, taken on some tough fights in a relatively young career, is in exciting fights (9 times out of 10), looks the part, Ring magazine number one.

I want to watch him fight and look forward to it when he does. I predict his popularity amongst the more dedicated boxing fans will sky-rocket once he tastes his first defeat and comes back - ironically, it'll probably plummet with the casuals.

RKY wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 07:22 I don't like Joshua, Wilder or Fury. I think all 3 of them are absolute bell ends who are credited with being better fighters than they actually are.

Don't get me wrong, i enjoy having them in the division and all 3 have a certain xfactor. Their talent level in terms of technical ability is nowhere near p4p level of Crawford/Loma/Alvarez but that's the heavyweights. Freakish size and power.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 12:37

RKY wrote: ↑24 Sep 2018, 07:22 I don't like Joshua, Wilder or Fury. I think all 3 of them are absolute bell ends who are credited with being better fighters than they actually are.

Don't get me wrong, i enjoy having them in the division and all 3 have a certain xfactor. Their talent level in terms of technical ability is nowhere near p4p level of Crawford/Loma/Alvarez but that's the heavyweights. Freakish size and power.

Do you still think Whyte is the best?

Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Sep 2018, 05:52 Ive always said I like him as a fighter but can't stand the circus and constant bullshit/over the top hype that surrounds him. Hearn is a cùnt, Sky and 99% of the pundits are cùnts, Adam Smith is a cùnt, Barney Francis is a cùnt, his casual poncho wearing sweet Calorine fanboys are cùnts and his fake media trained demeanour is the definition of cùnt! When you mix all that together you're left with a massive pile of jagged cùnt with teeth! A vicious cùnt!


P.s The Whyte fight next April is a cùnt and anyone that believes it'll be anyone other than Whyte is a cùnt.

P.p.s The 'rapper' that 'rapped' him in to the ring on Saturday was also a cùnt......

smiling assassin wrote: ↑25 Sep 2018, 06:06

Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Sep 2018, 05:52 Ive always said I like him as a fighter but can't stand the circus and constant bullshit/over the top hype that surrounds him. Hearn is a cùnt, Sky and 99% of the pundits are cùnts, Adam Smith is a cùnt, Barney Francis is a cùnt, his casual poncho wearing sweet Caroline fanboys are cùnts and his fake media trained demeanour is the definition of cùnt! When you mix all that together you're left with a massive pile of jagged cùnt with teeth! A vicious cùnt!


P.s The Whyte fight next April is a cùnt and anyone that believes it'll be anyone other than Whyte is a cùnt.

P.p.s The 'rapper' that 'rapped' him in to the ring on Saturday was also a cùnt......

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