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Adrien Broner “could” potentially beat Manny Pacquiao and he certainly has the talent to do so. However, he doesn’t possess the right mental attitude and determination to make the most of his pugilistic talents.

So, I expect Broner to fade during the second half of his bout against Pacquiao (as he doesn’t live the lifestyle of a world class athlete), be outworked by the Filipino veteran and then lose by a comfortable margin on the judges’ scorecards.

If Adrien is really “up” for this fight, prepares himself for the biggest test of his career and genuinely possesses the desire to win this contest, then he's capable of doing so, but in reality Broner is a lazy fúckíng bȁstȁrd and will instead simply do just about enough to avoid suffering a stoppage defeat.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 13:11 What has that bum Broner done to deserve an internationally spotlighted big money fight like this?

Beards (face cushions) in boxing is getting completely out of control now. Throughout the history of boxing, until a few years ago, beards were not permitted.

Broner is one of the sports’ biggest names. He surprisingly attracts huge audiences figures, but this is due to his out-of-ring WWE-like antics.

Any fighter that consistently generates money for the TV networks will be given opportunities to engage in marquee fights.

It’s as simple as that.

In terms of beards, I’ve previously posted dozens of photos of fighters that wore them for their bouts.

This simply isn’t a recent phenomenon, because I can recall them being worn at least a quarter of a century ago (i.e. Holyfield-Moorer I).

Evander Holyfield, Greg Page, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Emanuel Augustus, Billy Joe Saunders, Tony Bellew, Jorge Linares, Joe Frazier, Michael Spinks, Leon Spinks, David Haye, Curtis Stevens, Conor McGregor, Danny Williams, Kimbo Slice, Jean Pascal, Lamont Peterson, Robert Guerrero, Shannon Briggs, Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman have all entered the ring wearing beards... and I bet there have been loads more.

You really do need to do your research prior to jumping to conclusions, because I’ve only educated you on some really basic blindingly-obvious concepts.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 13:59

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 13:11 What has that bum Broner done to deserve an internationally spotlighted big money fight like this?

Beards (face cushions) in boxing is getting completely out of control now. Throughout the history of boxing, until a few years ago, beards were not permitted.

Broner is one of the sports’ biggest names. He surprisingly attracts huge audiences figures, but this is due to his out-of-ring WWE-like antics.

Any fighter that consistently generates money for the TV networks will be given opportunities to engage in marquee fights.

It’s as simple as that.

In terms of beards, I’ve previously posted dozens of photos of fighters that wore them for their bouts.

This simply isn’t a recent phenomenon, because I can recall them being worn at least a quarter of a century ago (i.e. Holyfield-Moorer I).

Evander Holyfield, Greg Page, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Emanuel Augustus, Billy Joe Saunders, Tony Bellew, Jorge Linares, Joe Frazier, Michael Spinks, Leon Spinks, David Haye, Curtis Stevens, Conor McGregor, Danny Williams, Kimbo Slice, Jean Pascal, Lamont Peterson, Robert Guerrero, Shannon Briggs, Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman have all entered the ring wearing beards... and I bet there have been loads more.

You really do need to do your research prior to jumping to conclusions, because I’ve only educated you on some really basic blindingly-obvious concepts.

"This simply isn’t a recent phenomenon, because I can recall them being worn at least a quarter of a century ago (i.e. Holyfield-Moorer I)."




Holyfield-Moorer 1. More like not shaving for a couple of days than a big beard. Also boxing has been around for a lot longer than 24 years.






" Interestingly, beards are allowed in professional boxing, with the caveat being that it must be trimmed to a certain length. The Boxing Board rules do state that a fighter’s jawline must be visible during a fight, so facial hair isn’t altogether prohibited.

There was an interesting article from allegedly (Boxing promoter) where he was fully backing the 'No Beards in Boxing' steam train.

Frank [Warren] complains that this rule has been relaxed a fair amount in recent years with boxers showing up in the ring fully bearded. It's also thought that bushy beards will potentially cushion blows."

https://www.twistedmoustache.co.uk/do-b ... rb-punches






You really should do your research before posting so I don't have to keep educating you!

:)

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 14:54Holyfield-Moorer 1. More like not shaving for a couple of days than a big beard.

If you can’t even get the basics right, I’m not bothering to pay attention to the rest of the shît you write!


Are you claiming that you don’t know the difference between Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer, because only one of them wore a short stubbly beard and ‘The Real Deal’ clearly wasn’t that individual?

Also, you’re quoting Fránk Wärrën, but I’ve already previously posted shît loads of photos debunking his claims.

I can simply repost this to prove you wrong if you really need to be silenced? You should’ve gone to Specsavers!

Do better buddy! You’re grasping at straws and desperately trying to avoid conceding defeat!

FFS! Are you fûckîng blind or what?

I would've favored Pac up until recently, but I figure it's close to a 50/50 fight at this point. Broner should be able to get it done if he puts in the work. He's not quite an Elite talent, but he might be close enough to beat THIS Pacquiao.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 18:32

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 14:54Holyfield-Moorer 1. More like not shaving for a couple of days than a big beard.

If you can’t even get the basics right, I’m not bothering to pay attention to the rest of the shît you write!


Are you claiming that you don’t know the difference between Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer, because only one of them wore a short stubbly beard and ‘The Real Deal’ clearly wasn’t that individual?

Also, you’re quoting Fránk Wärrën, but I’ve already previously posted shît loads of photos debunking his claims.

I can simply repost this to prove you wrong if you really need to be silenced? You should’ve gone to Specsavers!

Do better buddy! You’re grasping at straws and desperately trying to avoid conceding defeat!

FFS! Are you fûckîng blind or what?

Maybe he was going off the thumbnail and never watched the video..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 19:04

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 18:32

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 14:54Holyfield-Moorer 1. More like not shaving for a couple of days than a big beard.

If you can’t even get the basics right, I’m not bothering to pay attention to the rest of the shît you write!


Are you claiming that you don’t know the difference between Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer, because only one of them wore a short stubbly beard and ‘The Real Deal’ clearly wasn’t that individual?

Also, you’re quoting Fránk Wärrën, but I’ve already previously posted shît loads of photos debunking his claims.

I can simply repost this to prove you wrong if you really need to be silenced? You should’ve gone to Specsavers!

Do better buddy! You’re grasping at straws and desperately trying to avoid conceding defeat!

FFS! Are you fûckîng blind or what?

Maybe he was going off the thumbnail and never watched the video..

He’s somebody that’s lazy and argues out of ignorance.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 19:04 I would've favored Pac up until recently, but I figure it's close to a 50/50 fight at this point. Broner should be able to get it done if he puts in the work. He's not quite an Elite talent, but he might be close enough to beat THIS Pacquiao.

Broner should take a leaf out of Fury's book. Playing an idiot for so long in Boxing can be entertaining for us but it is a highly risky business for the fighter. It's one thing trying to distract the opponent, but another to lose your own sense of focus. Happens far too often in this most difficult sport.

He needs to get his head together asap. This is a huge opportunity in front of him. Drop the act Adrien and get some help, this is no joke right now, and it certainly wont be 10-15 years down the road. Sure, there's always money pressures but if his performance at the recent PR event with Pacquiao is anything to go by, there should be some serious questions about whether he should be allowed to fight at all.

And not just him. Pacquiao seems to be now entering his late Ali phase. He clearly needs to stop, and the sooner the better. If he needs one last big $$$$payday against Floyd, fair enough. If not, it's time to hang them up Manny. It's getting far too hot in the kitchen.

It's probably the most difficult decision in boxing, knowing when it's time to quit. Unfortunately whilst he human mind may have no limits, the body certainly has.

Hector Camacho Sr. was on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive the year prior to upsetting the well past-his-prime version of the Hall-of-Famer Sugar Ray Leonard.

‘The Problem’ is also on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive in the years prior to facing a well past-his-prime version of the future Hall-of-Famer Manny Pacquiao.

So, could Adrien Broner score an upset under similar circumstance? Probably not, but it’s entirely possible. And would anybody be really shocked if he does? I doubt it.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 19:04

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 18:32

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 14:54Holyfield-Moorer 1. More like not shaving for a couple of days than a big beard.

If you can’t even get the basics right, I’m not bothering to pay attention to the rest of the shît you write!


Are you claiming that you don’t know the difference between Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer, because only one of them wore a short stubbly beard and ‘The Real Deal’ clearly wasn’t that individual?

Also, you’re quoting Fránk Wärrën, but I’ve already previously posted shît loads of photos debunking his claims.

I can simply repost this to prove you wrong if you really need to be silenced? You should’ve gone to Specsavers!

Do better buddy! You’re grasping at straws and desperately trying to avoid conceding defeat!

FFS! Are you fûckîng blind or what?

Maybe he was going off the thumbnail and never watched the video..

Neither is wearing a full beard in that fight. The sport of boxing has been around for almost 3,000 years since the ancient Greek olympics. Beards were never allowed. Can you find a photo or drawing of any boxing champion in history with a beard before the last few years?

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 08:40 Nobody is wearing a full beard in that fight. The sport of boxing has been around for almost 3,000 years since the ancient Greek olympics. Beards were never allowed. Can you find a photo or drawing of any boxing champion in history with a beard before the last few years?

aAh so you mean full beard of course.

Like Hughie Fury vs. Pulev or Broner's current beard.. Maybe Canelo when he fought GGG?

I admit, I see more full beards.

The beard Holyfield has there is an actual beard tho, not too big, but enough cushion.

Maybe it looks thicker because that's how his hair is?

Moorer's beard looks the same as Holy's, but just lighter.. Maybe because he's bald!

tbh stubble rather then a huge broner style beard can actually be very scratchy if the two boxers are in close with there heads

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 08:40

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 19:04

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 18:32
If you can’t even get the basics right, I’m not bothering to pay attention to the rest of the shît you write!


Are you claiming that you don’t know the difference between Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer, because only one of them wore a short stubbly beard and ‘The Real Deal’ clearly wasn’t that individual?

Also, you’re quoting Fránk Wärrën, but I’ve already previously posted shît loads of photos debunking his claims.

I can simply repost this to prove you wrong if you really need to be silenced? You should’ve gone to Specsavers!

Do better buddy! You’re grasping at straws and desperately trying to avoid conceding defeat!

FFS! Are you fûckîng blind or what?

Maybe he was going off the thumbnail and never watched the video..

Neither is wearing a full beard in that fight. Beards were never allowed. Can you find a photo or drawing of any boxing champion in history with a beard before the last few years?

You're seriously suggesting that Evander Holyfield wasn't wearing a full beard for the first Moorer bout? You must have an issue with your eyesight!

Next you'll claim that Roberto Duran simply wore teenage-style bµmfluff (sparse and whispy facial hair) for his bouts against Leonard, Hearns and Hagler? The 'Hands of Stone' was even wearing beards more than forty years ago for several of his world championship bouts at lightweight. If you don't know who Roberto Duran is then you've clearly got no business discussing this issue with me!

You’re either mentally deluded, blatantly lying, deeply visually-impaired or a combination of all three!

Wasn't a small fuss kicked up regarding Duran beard v Hearns. It's true though that beards are meant to be a certain length. Holys beard is clearly very thin and Broners is clearly not. I imagine he will have it a lot shorter come fight night though.

mchuffy wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 11:59Wasn't a small fuss kicked up regarding Duran beard v Hearns. It's true though that beards are meant to be a certain length. Holys beard is clearly very thin and Broners is clearly not.

Has anybody told you that your writing style is very reminiscent of this ‘Ilya Muromets’ fellow that has posted numerous silly remarks on this thread? You may or may not be different people, but this is simply an observation - just saying...

Anyway, Evander Holyfield’s beard wasn’t “very thin” – that’s just utter nonsense, unless it’s a case of mistaken identity on your part, because only the bald-headed Michael Moorer’s beard that night was stubble-like. Please just watch the fight and review the ringside photos!



On a separate note: if there was any so-called “controversy” about Duran’s beard against Hearn’s, it was simply a publicity stunt to market the bout to the mainstream masses, because both men entered the ring that night wearing one.

Roberto Duran wore thick beards for his bouts against Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. The 'Hands of Stone' was even wearing beards more than forty years ago for several of his world championship bouts at lightweight.

There are multiple photos of fighters from yesteryear, such as the likes of Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore and Sugar Ray Robinson, wearing goatee beards for a few of their bouts.

Here's an earlier comment I posted about the very same subject:

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 13:59Evander Holyfield, Greg Page, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Emanuel Augustus, Billy Joe Saunders, Tony Bellew, Jorge Linares, Joe Frazier, Michael Spinks, Leon Spinks, David Haye, Curtis Stevens, Conor McGregor, Danny Williams, Kimbo Slice, Jean Pascal, Lamont Peterson, Robert Guerrero, Shannon Briggs, Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman have all entered the ring wearing beards... and I bet there have been loads more.

Also, what do you think these fighters have in common?

Lamont Peterson, David Haye, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Conor McGregor, Gerald Washington, Deontay Wilder, Immanuel Aleem, Alfredo Angulo, Artur Beterbiev, Dominic Brazeale, Adrien Broner, Marcus Browne, Chad Dawson, Felix Diaz, Andre Dirrell, Omar Douglas, Andrzej Fonfara, Stephen Fulton, Danny Garcia, Roberto Garcia, David Grayton, Fernando Guerrero, Robert Guerrero, Julius Jackson, Danny Jacobs, Travis Kauffman, Amir Khan, Phil Lo Greco, Josesito Lopez, J’Leon Love, Paul Mallignagi, Shannon Briggs, Charles Martin, Victor Ortiz, Caleb Plant, Darwin Price, Edwin Rodriguez, Gary Russell Jr., Maciej Sulecki, Antonio Tarver, Austin Trout, Jorge Linares, Canelo Alvarez, Jesus Rojas, Sadam Ali, David Lemieux, Eddie Gomez, Giberto Ramirez, Alex Saucedo, Andy Ruiz Jr. Bryant Jennings, Christopher Diaz, Jesse Hart, Jose Pedraza, Jose Ramirez, Manny Pacquiao, Mike Reed, Ray Beltran, Steve Nelson, Terence Crawford, Vasyl Lomachenko, Trevor McCumby, Victor Postol, Ola Afolobi, Johnathon Banks, Mike Perez, Sullivan Barrera, Vaughn Alexander, Curtis Stevens, George Arias, Andy Lee, Demond Nicholson, Artur Beterbiev, Erik Bazinyan, Sebastian Bouchard, Lucian Bute etc.

I could name 100's more...

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 06:58 Hector Camacho Sr. was on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive the year prior to upsetting the well past-his-prime version of the Hall-of-Famer Sugar Ray Leonard.

‘The Problem’ is also on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive in the years prior to facing a well past-his-prime version of the future Hall-of-Famer Manny Pacquiao.

So, could Adrien Broner score an upset under similar circumstance? Probably not, but it’s entirely possible. And would anybody be really shocked if he does? I doubt it.

Lol, Camacho was a significant favorite against Leonard. Truly ridiculous analogy.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 03:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 06:58 Hector Camacho Sr. was on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive the year prior to upsetting the well past-his-prime version of the Hall-of-Famer Sugar Ray Leonard.

‘The Problem’ is also on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive in the years prior to facing a well past-his-prime version of the future Hall-of-Famer Manny Pacquiao.

So, could Adrien Broner score an upset under similar circumstance? Probably not, but it’s entirely possible. And would anybody be really shocked if he does? I doubt it.

Lol, Camacho was a significant favorite against Leonard. Truly ridiculous analogy.

You’re taking absolute fûckîng bôllôcks! I can easily prove that Leonard was the favourite but you fûckîng can’t and I know for certain you won’t bother attempting to justify your fûckîng bûllshît claim, because you’re lying. You’re just trying to be cantankerous!

It's a fact son. Lmao at upset. Poor Fergus., Wrong again. I actually bet on Leonard. I think he was 3-1 dog. Don't remember exactly.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 05:53

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 03:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2018, 06:58 Hector Camacho Sr. was on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive the year prior to upsetting the well past-his-prime version of the Hall-of-Famer Sugar Ray Leonard.

‘The Problem’ is also on a terrible run of form and looked deeply unimpressive in the years prior to facing a well past-his-prime version of the future Hall-of-Famer Manny Pacquiao.

So, could Adrien Broner score an upset under similar circumstance? Probably not, but it’s entirely possible. And would anybody be really shocked if he does? I doubt it.

Lol, Camacho was a significant favorite against Leonard. Truly ridiculous analogy.

You’re taking absolute fûckîng bôllôcks! I can easily prove that Leonard was the favourite but you fûckîng can’t and I know for certain you won’t bother attempting to justify your fûckîng bûllshît claim, because you’re lying. You’re just trying to be cantankerous!

I always wondered how a girl reacted when her tampon came out but, being a dude, never knew what would happen.

thanks for 'enlightening' me on that subject

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 06:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 05:53

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 03:09

Lol, Camacho was a significant favorite against Leonard. Truly ridiculous analogy.

You’re taking absolute fûckîng bôllôcks! I can easily prove that Leonard was the favourite but you fûckîng can’t and I know for certain you won’t bother attempting to justify your fûckîng bûllshît claim, because you’re lying. You’re just trying to be cantankerous!

I always wondered how a girl reacted when her tampon came out but, being a dude, never knew what would happen.

thanks for 'enlightening' me on that subject

regardless of the odds, nobody was surprised that a 40 year old off of a 6 or 7 year
Layoff lost.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 06:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 05:53

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Nov 2018, 03:09

Lol, Camacho was a significant favorite against Leonard. Truly ridiculous analogy.

You’re taking absolute fûckîng bôllôcks! I can easily prove that Leonard was the favourite but you fûckîng can’t and I know for certain you won’t bother attempting to justify your fûckîng bûllshît claim, because you’re lying. You’re just trying to be cantankerous!

I always wondered how a girl reacted when her tampon came out but, being a dude, never knew what would happen.

thanks for 'enlightening' me on that subject

The funny thing about this fight is. Considering Pac's age, and his deterioration, this is definitely a fight that Broner COULD win. If he had the discipline or the intelligence to fight a smart fight.

He doesn't, and he doesn't.

He'll shake his head like a jackass for 12 rounds every time Pac flurries. Get outworked, and blow his last big chance to make himself the star that he thinks he is.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 18:35 The funny thing about this fight is. Considering Pac's age, and his deterioration, this is definitely a fight that Broner COULD win. If he had the discipline or the intelligence to fight a smart fight.

He doesn't, and he doesn't.

He'll shake his head like a jackass for 12 rounds every time Pac flurries. Get outworked, and blow his last big chance to make himself the star that he thinks he is.

Yeh. He never does enough to win the rounds he can.

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