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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 14:50 Crawford would have pulverized loma. Too big and tough.

i didnt know your talking about a fight i would agree if they were to fight tommorw i go crawford , it says skillset , i fancy mike tyson to spark crawford

I thought you were talking about loma going up 3 weights to fight bud. I was talking about skills, that is very close.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 15:05 I thought you were talking about loma going up 3 weights to fight bud. I was talking about skills, that is very close.

no i thought it was just talking skills , i dont know if loma would beat mickey let alone crawford ,

Cent0089 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 03:43 Hard to say. Lomachenko has better offensive arsenal, but more defensive flaws. Despite that, Crawford has better offense than 99% boxers and Lomachenko has better defense than 99% boxers

Do you want a cushion?
Sitting on that fence isn't doing yer grapes any good

Lol, and I actually think Crawford has the better offensive arsenal and loma is slightly more sound defensively.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 15:53

Cent0089 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 03:43 Hard to say. Lomachenko has better offensive arsenal, but more defensive flaws. Despite that, Crawford has better offense than 99% boxers and Lomachenko has better defense than 99% boxers

Do you want a cushion?
Sitting on that fence isn't doing yer grapes any good

Hi man, i am not from english speaking country, what this mean?

Crawford seems to have the better fundamentally learned skills. Loma, to me, dare I say it, looks like a more polished RJJ. Like Jones, his physical talents are unmatched in his division. But, Loma is more sound fundamentally than RJJ. Where Loma may fall behind Bud in fundamental proficiency, which isn't by much, he makes up for with raw talent.

Just my take.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 16:54

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 15:53

Cent0089 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 03:43 Hard to say. Lomachenko has better offensive arsenal, but more defensive flaws. Despite that, Crawford has better offense than 99% boxers and Lomachenko has better defense than 99% boxers

Do you want a cushion?
Sitting on that fence isn't doing yer grapes any good

Hi man, i am not from english speaking country, what this mean?

Pick a fighter.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 18:38

Cent0089 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 16:54

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 15:53

Do you want a cushion?
Sitting on that fence isn't doing yer grapes any good

Hi man, i am not from english speaking country, what this mean?

Pick a fighter.

Ah i get it now ... So im Picking Lomachenko

Crawford slightly, based on ability to adjust.

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 19:51 Crawford slightly, based on ability to adjust.

Well, I'd say, they both have this ability in about the same amount. Crawford showed, how he could turn everything out after a hard start not for a single time, Lomachenko was able to overcome adversity in his recent fight and I'd even say, he was able to adapt to Salido's dirty game without having a pro-experience. In my opinion, Loma was robbed then.

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 04:52

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 19:51 Crawford slightly, based on ability to adjust.

Well, I'd say, they both have this ability in about the same amount. Crawford showed, how he could turn everything out after a hard start not for a single time, Lomachenko was able to overcome adversity in his recent fight and I'd even say, he was able to adapt to Salido's dirty game without having a pro-experience. In my opinion, Loma was robbed then.

It was close, and down and dirty, but Salido edged it for me.

Crawford constantly adjusts. I do not see that in Loma. That is not a slight. Loma is an excellent talent. I just choose Crawford by a hair. We will see going forward.

salido defo won close but clear imo, though for loma to go in with not even 4 full pro rounds and make it that close and to be the one ending stronger vs a super experienced champ like that is very impressive

jamamb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 13:39 salido defo won close but clear imo, though for loma to go in with not even 4 full pro rounds and make it that close and to be the one ending stronger vs a super experienced champ like that is very impressive

100% agree.

jamamb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 13:39 salido defo won close but clear imo, though for loma to go in with not even 4 full pro rounds and make it that close and to be the one ending stronger vs a super experienced champ like that is very impressive

Agree. Lomachenko learned a lot from that lost. Btw he must have balls of iron, i really dont get it how he can take all that low blows and still was able to rally in last round like a fresh boxer

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 19:51 Crawford slightly, based on ability to adjust.

TC is the best fighter at adjusting his game plan while the fight actually transpires since Mayweather retired. His ability to think on his feet is very impressive.

Loma is the more technically skilled "pure" boxer, so to speak. Crawford is more rugged and, likely, versatile. Not really sure who's more effective, though I voted Loma. Time will tell.

Crawford is the more skilled fighter he can do EVERYTHING technically, has better defense then Loma, is better on the back foot then Loma, is just as good going forwards then loma, has better defense and just as good offense. Also, Crawford can switch from orthodox to southpaw and fights in both stances equally well and his fight IQ and versatility is second to none as he can adjust to any fighting Style. Loma is a great fighter with great talent but this greatest boxer nonsense has to stop. We cannot just dismiss his Salido loss, and that fact that Linares knocked him down, just ask yourself if Mikey landed that shot what would have happened to Loma. I"m a fan of Loma but in terms of skill Crawford is the most skilled fighter on the planet. And its about time everyone give him that respect.

Loma, and it is not even close.