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Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 A draw was ridiculous

An that backward who had the first 4rounds for wilder shouldn't even be allowed to watch boxing in his front room again

Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 A draw was ridiculous

An that backward who had the first 4rounds for wilder shouldn't even be allowed to watch boxing in his front room again

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 It's simples. To get a draw wilder needed to win 3 of the non knockown rounds.

He didn't do that in my book. He won 2 and lost 114-112

skanksta wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:52

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 It's simples. To get a draw wilder needed to win 3 of the non knockown rounds.

He didn't do that in my book. He won 2 and lost 114-112

Same here - but if you're card is one switched round away from the result you can hardly cry robbery !?

skanksta wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:52

forcefraser wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 It's simples. To get a draw wilder needed to win 3 of the non knockown rounds.

He didn't do that in my book. He won 2 and lost 114-112

Same here - but if you're card is one switched round away from the result you can hardly cry robbery !?

jamamb wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:59 maybe you like also being contradictory mate? like that 9-3 broner 'masterclass' over vargas card you had, or apparently pac beating mayweather

'oh but lol at everyone following the general perception, look at me im different!'

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:12 Guys who score it to a draw for themselves (which i don't get to, no matter how favouring i look upon wilder's performance, he just didn't remotely deserve to be given that many rounds with how much good will ever) & conclude the fight rightfully scored as a draw consisting of 3 scorecards just make no sense whatsoever. There is still that atrocious corrupt scorecard for wilder.

Scoring the fight as a draw for yourself doesn't justify the fight result being a draw which only comes about with the one card scoring the fight wrongfully for wilder, which is unreasonable and not to justify too.

Even if i could find myself the rounds for wilder to score it a draw, doesn't make the fightresult of a draw consisting of 3 scores more acceptable, reasonable or right.

It is was it is & stays what it was, a judge paid to score a fight to his best ability, which isn't what he did, he was paid money on the side to manufacture a shameful scorecard in favor of wilder.

If the judge who scored it a draw was paid too to do so then you'd have the perfect fix. One honest judge who scored the fight the only right & reasonable way, which is for fury. FURY WITH NO CHANCE TO GET THE DECISION, THE DRAW PREDETERMINED, MANUFACTURED AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESULT with 2 judges in your pocket, 1 for wilder, 1 a draw, A DRAW.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:50

Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 A draw was ridiculous

An that backward who had the first 4rounds for wilder shouldn't even be allowed to watch boxing in his front room again

I didn't see the fight, Oiky, but from all that I've read, the first four rounds were so very close they could've gone either way. To be fair, the overwhelming majority of articles and pundits I read had the fight for Fury. I can't wait to see the fight for myself, so I can see first hand. Cheers!

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:19 I posted about halfway through the RBR thread that scores would be all over the place. Too many rounds where just not much happened.

ewenhay wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:18

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:12 Guys who score it to a draw for themselves (which i don't get to, no matter how favouring i look upon wilder's performance, he just didn't remotely deserve to be given that many rounds with how much good will ever) & conclude the fight rightfully scored as a draw consisting of 3 scorecards just make no sense whatsoever. There is still that atrocious corrupt scorecard for wilder.

Scoring the fight as a draw for yourself doesn't justify the fight result being a draw which only comes about with the one card scoring the fight wrongfully for wilder, which is unreasonable and not to justify too.

Even if i could find myself the rounds for wilder to score it a draw, doesn't make the fightresult of a draw consisting of 3 scores more acceptable, reasonable or right.

It is was it is & stays what it was, a judge paid to score a fight to his best ability, which isn't what he did, he was paid money on the side to manufacture a shameful scorecard in favor of wilder.

If the judge who scored it a draw was paid too to do so then you'd have the perfect fix. One honest judge who scored the fight the only right & reasonable way, which is for fury. FURY WITH NO CHANCE TO GET THE DECISION, THE DRAW PREDETERMINED, MANUFACTURED AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESULT with 2 judges in your pocket, 1 for wilder, 1 a draw, A DRAW.

Someone else already covered this by pointing out that if Fury had stayed on his feet in the 12th he would have won therefore ruling out any conspiracy. If you wanted to post a drawn card you wouldn't allow your card to have as much as 2 points between the fighters going into the last

RKY wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:49

Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 A draw was ridiculous

An that backward who had the first 4rounds for wilder shouldn't even be allowed to watch boxing in his front room again

Fury clearly won round 3, but i thought Wilder won 1, 2 & 4.

But how upset can you really get over the scoring of rounds which had around 7 scoring shots land - the outrage over the cards is laughable. The rounds were shitty, and close.

RKY wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:49

Oiky wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:47 A draw was ridiculous

An that backward who had the first 4rounds for wilder shouldn't even be allowed to watch boxing in his front room again

Fury clearly won round 3, but i thought Wilder won 1, 2 & 4.

But how upset can you really get over the scoring of rounds which had around 7 scoring shots land - the outrage over the cards is laughable. The rounds were shitty, and close.

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:25

ewenhay wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:18

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:12 Guys who score it to a draw for themselves (which i don't get to, no matter how favouring i look upon wilder's performance, he just didn't remotely deserve to be given that many rounds with how much good will ever) & conclude the fight rightfully scored as a draw consisting of 3 scorecards just make no sense whatsoever. There is still that atrocious corrupt scorecard for wilder.

Scoring the fight as a draw for yourself doesn't justify the fight result being a draw which only comes about with the one card scoring the fight wrongfully for wilder, which is unreasonable and not to justify too.

Even if i could find myself the rounds for wilder to score it a draw, doesn't make the fightresult of a draw consisting of 3 scores more acceptable, reasonable or right.

It is was it is & stays what it was, a judge paid to score a fight to his best ability, which isn't what he did, he was paid money on the side to manufacture a shameful scorecard in favor of wilder.

If the judge who scored it a draw was paid too to do so then you'd have the perfect fix. One honest judge who scored the fight the only right & reasonable way, which is for fury. FURY WITH NO CHANCE TO GET THE DECISION, THE DRAW PREDETERMINED, MANUFACTURED AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESULT with 2 judges in your pocket, 1 for wilder, 1 a draw, A DRAW.

Someone else already covered this by pointing out that if Fury had stayed on his feet in the 12th he would have won therefore ruling out any conspiracy. If you wanted to post a drawn card you wouldn't allow your card to have as much as 2 points between the fighters going into the last

Of course you would do exactly that, Expecting fury to do nothing but stay away & survive to secure to "win" the fight ( in his mind & rightfully so) AND wilder puttibg everything on the line, chasing fury, going for the knockout. How would such a round be scored even without a knock down? 10-8.

skanksta wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:36 You know...

I think the biggest "Robbery" I've seen was HUGHIE Fury vs Parker.
I scored that 119-110 (1 even) for Hughie - and he lost !!

I still didn't moan about it because it's subjective. FOR ME Hughie was indeed, "shades of Ali" as he made Parker look like a dumb lumbering oaf for most of the fight.
BUT I totally get someone watching the same fight and saying, "Hughie never threw a meaningful blow - at least Joe Parker was trying to FIGHT.

Tyson hits harder obviously, but this was similar. Tyson for me was winning most of the rounds, but on my card you only had to change ONE ROUND to get a draw. So...
NOT a "robbery"

Still think the Mexican was paid off tho'

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 13:24 fury was out beat the count, the ref used a regular procedure to make sure fury is able to defend himself, no extra time, nothing shady whatsoever.

Wilder was out on his feet, stumbled in his corner then after the regular break, the ref sends ortiz who's ready to finish the job to the neutral corner & the doctors check god knows what on wilder, which they should've done if found necessary during the break. Extra time for wilder, shady as poo.

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:12 Guys who score it to a draw for themselves (which i don't get to, no matter how favouring i look upon wilder's performance, he just didn't remotely deserve to be given that many rounds with how much good will ever) & conclude the fight rightfully scored as a draw consisting of 3 scorecards just make no sense whatsoever. There is still that atrocious corrupt scorecard for wilder.

Scoring the fight as a draw for yourself doesn't justify the fight result being a draw which only comes about with the one card scoring the fight wrongfully for wilder, which is unreasonable and not to justify too.

Even if i could find myself the rounds for wilder to score it a draw, doesn't make the fightresult of a draw consisting of 3 scores more acceptable, reasonable or right.

It is was it is & stays what it was, a judge paid to score a fight to his best ability, which isn't what he did, he was paid money on the side to manufacture a shameful scorecard in favor of wilder.

If the judge who scored it a draw was paid too to do so then you'd have the perfect fix. One honest judge who scored the fight the only right & reasonable way, which is for fury. FURY WITH NO CHANCE TO GET THE DECISION, THE DRAW PREDETERMINED, MANUFACTURED AS THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESULT with 2 judges in your pocket, 1 for wilder, 1 a draw, A DRAW.