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oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 12:23 To me he's the only top contender who really fought his way to a title shot. Look at those fights since the AJ loss. And I don't even especially like Whyte.

Lackeos wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 12:38 Anyone who doesn't want to see Povetkin - Ortiz hates boxing. This fight is perfect. If not for the fact that Pulev is closely in line for another title shot, I'd say that any combination of Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz is absolutely perfect.

oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 12:23

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 12:21 I wouldn't hold your breath. Ortiz v Povetkin would be an awesome fight even now and by no means a forgone conclusion. Either against Pulev or Parker would also be very interesting.

I agree Whyte has jumped through quite enough hoops and fully deserves his title shot but the sad fact is there isn't any great clamour among UK fans to see him fight Joshua again. I'm sure this is not lost on Eddie Hearn.

I think it's a real shame the WBC didn't make him mandatory and insist on Wilder facing him. Whyte wouldn't start favourite but he'd be in with a shout and nobody can tell me he hasn't earned it.

To me he's the only top contender who really fought his way to a title shot. Look at those fights since the AJ loss. And I don't even especially like Whyte.

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:13

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:16

oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:13

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.

I'd still like to see it. It's a good match up

oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:17

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:16

oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:13
True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.

I'd still like to see it. It's a good match up

I have this sickening feeling that Whyte won't get his title shot in April. Sickening in the sense that he actually earned it, given he gets past chisora.

Noxy wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:20 I'm not surprised Povetkin wants the winner. I don't think the winner would go for it though.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

candyslim wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 02:15

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

You know what I think about that. Let's not re-hash it again. I'll just say "do you have any reason to consider the WBC to be on the level?" They are corrupt to the very core and don't always even feel the need to disguise it. The WBA are even worse which is one hell of an achievement.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 19:11

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault

dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:41 still some people believe that Whyte would be a favourite in this fight?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:44

dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:41 still some people believe that Whyte would be a favourite in this fight?

I don't know if he'd be the favorite, but I also don't know why he'd waste his time. Given the string of contenders he's beaten of late I wouldn't accept anything other than a fight with one of the Big 3 of the division next. He's earned it. Whether he can win or not, he's earned his shot.

dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage

jamamb wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:55

dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage

tell me who else has done more without getting a shot

dagilechia wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage