Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
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I think he's done and should go away before he becomes a gatekeeper.
I think he's done and should go away before he becomes a gatekeeper.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Povetkin is still a dangerous contender. Though he is past his sell by date.
I see no reason for the winner of Whyte/Chisora (Whyte will win in my view) jumping through anymore hoops to get a shot at the title. It's at the point of being a joke. What does Eddie want Whyte to do next to get screwed over?
I honestly don't rate the heavyweight division very highly at this time. But Whyte has proven himself to be top 5. If Hearn won't get him Joshua I'd leave his promotion if I was him.
I see no reason for the winner of Whyte/Chisora (Whyte will win in my view) jumping through anymore hoops to get a shot at the title. It's at the point of being a joke. What does Eddie want Whyte to do next to get screwed over?
I honestly don't rate the heavyweight division very highly at this time. But Whyte has proven himself to be top 5. If Hearn won't get him Joshua I'd leave his promotion if I was him.
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I don't believe Povetkin is still dangerous as top contenders go, but I do agree that Whyte's time has come if he gets past Chisora.tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 15:37 Povetkin is still a dangerous contender. Though he is past his sell by date.
I see no reason for the winner of Whyte/Chisora (Whyte will win in my view) jumping through anymore hoops to get a shot at the title. It's at the point of being a joke. What does Eddie want Whyte to do next to get screwed over?
I honestly don't rate the heavyweight division very highly at this time. But Whyte has proven himself to be top 5. If Hearn won't get him Joshua I'd leave his promotion if I was him.
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dagilechia
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
it would be a good win for Povetkin. if not the winner, he can fighter the loser of this fight, it would be fine too.
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Deadendgeneration
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Pov beats either for me. No chance it happens though.
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Povetkin came pretty close to beating Joshua and now he's just "done"? That's f*cking ridiculous. He's still one of the best heavyweights in the world. He was blasting Joshua from every angle and looking like he invented a whole new way to fight big men. That's not done.
Whyte and Chisora have both already done enough to earn a title shot, especially Whyte. The winner of this fight has gone way beyond the standard of what it takes to get a shot. It would be sad if he then had to beat Povetkin on top of everything else. Then you look at what other people have done to earn title shots. Charles Martin basically beat Alexander Flores. Eric Molina beat Tony Grano. But Whyte's gotta beat Chisora twice, Browne, Parker, and Povetkin just to get his first title shot (and apparently Parker expects a rematch against him, too).
Whyte and Chisora have both already done enough to earn a title shot, especially Whyte. The winner of this fight has gone way beyond the standard of what it takes to get a shot. It would be sad if he then had to beat Povetkin on top of everything else. Then you look at what other people have done to earn title shots. Charles Martin basically beat Alexander Flores. Eric Molina beat Tony Grano. But Whyte's gotta beat Chisora twice, Browne, Parker, and Povetkin just to get his first title shot (and apparently Parker expects a rematch against him, too).
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
i still rank Povetkin above Wilder, looks like he's still willing to fight decent opponents and most likely he will defeat them. Povetkin vs Chisora would have similar outcome to Povetkin vs Hammer, Povetkin is also a clear favourite vs Whyte. i'm not sure that Wilder would do better vs AJ than Povetkin. potential Povetkin vs Wilder fight is for me 55/45 Povetkin. i would love to see how Wilder deals with Povetkin's aggresive style and pressure. He's much more open than Joshua, physically weaker, i can see Povetkin landing quite easily, not only to the head but especially to the body. Wilder doesn't have a good jab that could keep Povetkin out of range.
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Povetkin is past his prime, but even this version would beat Whyte/Chisora winner. He might be finished against the very top fighters like Fury and Joshua, but he can still beat some of the pretenders like Whyte, Chisora, Ruiz Jr., Parker, maybe Pulev, etc.
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
If Whyte wins, he should get a title shot.
He's done everything asked of him in the last few years; one of the few fighters who takes on the best, no questions asked.
If Chisora wins, maybe there's an argument for him fighting Povetkin, but not Whyte.
He's done everything asked of him in the last few years; one of the few fighters who takes on the best, no questions asked.
If Chisora wins, maybe there's an argument for him fighting Povetkin, but not Whyte.
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Whyte-Chisora winner (that's Whyte) should get Povetkin, that's right. Whyte will be KOed by AJ again, who want to see that for another time? Let everyone see Povetkin knocking out Whyte instead.
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I wouldn't say Pov being done is f'n ridiculous, but you make real good points on this post. Pov should fight the loser and then we can see what he has left. PS: He didn't come close to beating Joshua no matter how you look at it. That is inaccurate.Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 07:04 Povetkin came pretty close to beating Joshua and now he's just "done"? That's f*cking ridiculous. He's still one of the best heavyweights in the world. He was blasting Joshua from every angle and looking like he invented a whole new way to fight big men. That's not done.
Whyte and Chisora have both already done enough to earn a title shot, especially Whyte. The winner of this fight has gone way beyond the standard of what it takes to get a shot. It would be sad if he then had to beat Povetkin on top of everything else. Then you look at what other people have done to earn title shots. Charles Martin basically beat Alexander Flores. Eric Molina beat Tony Grano. But Whyte's gotta beat Chisora twice, Browne, Parker, and Povetkin just to get his first title shot (and apparently Parker expects a rematch against him, too).
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Id prefer to see Povetkin in with Pulev or Ortiz... ![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
So would I, and I think he can compete with Pulev but gets creamed by Ortiz.
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Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
There’s only 2 beltholders. Wilder isn’t interested and AJ would probably love to beat Whyte again.. even though he’s rooting for Chisora.Syntax Error wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 09:41 If Whyte wins, he should get a title shot.
He's done everything asked of him in the last few years; one of the few fighters who takes on the best, no questions asked.
If Chisora wins, maybe there's an argument for him fighting Povetkin, but not Whyte.
It’s not like other divisions where there are hardly any unified champions.
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
The best options for Povetkin :
1. Retirement
2. Ortiz
3. Parker
4. Pulev
5. Lebedev
Whyte/Chisora winner is not a realistic scenario, at all. The loser might be.................
1. Retirement
2. Ortiz
3. Parker
4. Pulev
5. Lebedev
Whyte/Chisora winner is not a realistic scenario, at all. The loser might be.................
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
The winner of Whyte/Chisora would be in a better position in org. rankings and would almost certainly be WBO mandatory. No need to take the fight, which is why they're a prime target to get called out.
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
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Ortiz would smash Pov. I like the earlier poster who said Pov v. Parker.joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:00 The winner of Whyte/Chisora would be in a better position in org. rankings and would almost certainly be WBO mandatory. No need to take the fight, which is why they're a prime target to get called out.
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
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Ridiculous post. Ortiz didn't even smash his last opponent. Povetkin destroys Ortiz. Ortiz won't keep up with Povetkin's pace. He's vulnerable with his horrendous stamina.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:03Ortiz would smash Pov. I like the earlier poster who said Pov v. Parker.joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:00 The winner of Whyte/Chisora would be in a better position in org. rankings and would almost certainly be WBO mandatory. No need to take the fight, which is why they're a prime target to get called out.
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
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It is settled then - Povetkin v Ortiz. Both skilled. Both powerful. Both significantly post prime. Both PED violators. Both were born in commie countries.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 00:53Ridiculous post. Ortiz didn't even smash his last opponent. Povetkin destroys Ortiz. Ortiz won't keep up with Povetkin's pace. He's vulnerable with his horrendous stamina.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:03Ortiz would smash Pov. I like the earlier poster who said Pov v. Parker.joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:00 The winner of Whyte/Chisora would be in a better position in org. rankings and would almost certainly be WBO mandatory. No need to take the fight, which is why they're a prime target to get called out.
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
Perfect match to see who “smashes” who. Put it on in Miami in February and it would likely sell quite well.
I think that they would both prefer the payday v Whyte or Chisora though.
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Sorry you feel that way. Hopefully we'll get the chance to see who's right. HOPEFULLY!Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 00:53Ridiculous post. Ortiz didn't even smash his last opponent. Povetkin destroys Ortiz. Ortiz won't keep up with Povetkin's pace. He's vulnerable with his horrendous stamina.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:03Ortiz would smash Pov. I like the earlier poster who said Pov v. Parker.joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 16:00 The winner of Whyte/Chisora would be in a better position in org. rankings and would almost certainly be WBO mandatory. No need to take the fight, which is why they're a prime target to get called out.
Povetkin should have a look at Huck, Joyce, Hrgovic.. I think they'd all take it and everyone would benefit from the matchup
Would love him to fight Ortiz but i don't think Ortiz would take it
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Ortiz v Povetkin would be an awesome fight even now and by no means a forgone conclusion. Either against Pulev or Parker would also be very interesting.
I agree Whyte has jumped through quite enough hoops and fully deserves his title shot but the sad fact is there isn't any great clamour among UK fans to see him fight Joshua again. I'm sure this is not lost on Eddie Hearn.
I think it's a real shame the WBC didn't make him mandatory and insist on Wilder facing him. Whyte wouldn't start favourite but he'd be in with a shout and nobody can tell me he hasn't earned it.
I agree Whyte has jumped through quite enough hoops and fully deserves his title shot but the sad fact is there isn't any great clamour among UK fans to see him fight Joshua again. I'm sure this is not lost on Eddie Hearn.
I think it's a real shame the WBC didn't make him mandatory and insist on Wilder facing him. Whyte wouldn't start favourite but he'd be in with a shout and nobody can tell me he hasn't earned it.
Re: Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner
To me he's the only top contender who really fought his way to a title shot. Look at those fights since the AJ loss. And I don't even especially like Whyte.candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 12:21 I wouldn't hold your breath. Ortiz v Povetkin would be an awesome fight even now and by no means a forgone conclusion. Either against Pulev or Parker would also be very interesting.
I agree Whyte has jumped through quite enough hoops and fully deserves his title shot but the sad fact is there isn't any great clamour among UK fans to see him fight Joshua again. I'm sure this is not lost on Eddie Hearn.
I think it's a real shame the WBC didn't make him mandatory and insist on Wilder facing him. Whyte wouldn't start favourite but he'd be in with a shout and nobody can tell me he hasn't earned it.
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Anyone who doesn't want to see Povetkin - Ortiz hates boxing. This fight is perfect. If not for the fact that Pulev is closely in line for another title shot, I'd say that any combination of Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz is absolutely perfect.