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Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 19:44
by Tony1244
bigjack wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:08
Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Journeymen usually have a string of defeats and generally show up to make up the numbers and happy to lose so they get regular work,that doesn't really fit the
bill for
Douglas
Thanks for reminding me. Bill Douglas (Buster's Dad) upset light heavyweight prospect Pedro Soto.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 19:45
by Controversial
Siarhei Khamitski stopping the unbeaten Buglioni
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 19:52
by Controversial
Quirino Garcia is an interesting fighter. He went 0-18 at the start of his career and ended with a 40-28-4 record, yet had wins over Jorge Vaca, Terrence Alli, Meldrick Taylor, Simon Brown and Frankie Randall.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
by Steveh583
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:08
Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not
Edit: I'm sorry I see you have already seen the light
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
by oogiebe
Steveh583 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:20
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:08
Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:21
by Steveh583
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:20
Steveh583 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:20
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:08
Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
Yeah just noticed mate. See edit above

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:23
by oogiebe
Steveh583 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:21
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:20
Steveh583 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:20
Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
Yeah just noticed mate. See edit above
LOL!

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:24
by littlepug
Micheal Ayers was upset by a journeyman if I remember rightly
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:28
by littlepug
Wasn’t Ross Purity considered a journeyman? He beat Wlad and got a draw with Morrison
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 20:32
by oogiebe
bigjack wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:22
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:20
bigjack wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 19:19
Journeymen usually have a string of defeats and generally show up to make up the numbers and happy to lose so they get regular work,that doesn't really fit the bill for Douglas
I will submit...

Good man,you know we are right.
so then Sokolowski fits vs Webb; Sean Turner; Naylor Ball (to a lessor extent)
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 01:02
by REEVE
Chris edwards was 1-6 ended up winning lonsdale belt outright
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 01:12
by orbtastic
Booth sheika
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 01:15
by orbtastic
Paul Wesley did Neville brown and silky Jones in 1 and 2 rounds respectively.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 02:50
by TheGoods
Laszlar Bognar against Michael Gomez.
Did YouseffEl Hamidi beat Crolla? If he never got the decision I remember him beating him handily over 8 rounds on ITV back in the day.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 03:49
by Switch hitter
littlepug wrote: ↑11 Jan 2019, 20:24
Micheal Ayers was upset by a journeyman if I remember rightly
Do you mean against Roger Sampson ?. I don't think Sampson was a journeyman
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 03:50
by Switch hitter
Tiger Jones vs Ray Robinson.....
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 05:03
by Verdi
Johnson vs Tarver/Jones/Woods
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:02
by Deserter
That’s the one that immediately sprang to my mind as well.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:05
by banjo
Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:08
by Deserter
Also worth mentioning Toks Owoh losing to Glen Johnson... perception changes over time and Johnson obviously went on to establish himself firmly back in world class, but prior to the Owoh fight he was perceived as sliding towards journeyman status, having lost his four previous bouts, including to the aforementioned Sheikha. Though to be fair, given the level those losses were at, gatekeeper could be a more appropriate phrase than journeyman.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:12
by banjo
Steve Little vs Michael Nunn
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:18
by Controversial
banjo wrote: ↑12 Jan 2019, 07:05
Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
Luis Santana
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:19
by banjo
Controversial wrote: ↑12 Jan 2019, 07:18
banjo wrote: ↑12 Jan 2019, 07:05
Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
Luis Santana
Don't think he was up to much before those fights and ended up winning
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:36
by Controversial
An obvious one that no one has mentioned yet, Steve Robinson. He was 13-9-1 when he got a surprise shot at the WBO world title with two days notice after the original challenger failed an AIDS test. Robinson won the title, went on to make seven defences and beat some very good fighters. Remarkable story.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 07:40
by bigjack
Controversial wrote: ↑12 Jan 2019, 07:36
An obvious one that no one has mentioned yet, Steve Robinson. He was 13-9-1 when he got a surprise shot at the WBO world title with two days notice after the original challenger failed an AIDS test. Robinson won the title, went on to make seven defences and beat some very good fighters. Remarkable story.
Of course,brilliant choice
