Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.

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bigjack wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:19
oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:08 Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Journeymen usually have a string of defeats and generally show up to make up the numbers and happy to lose so they get regular work,that doesn't really fit the bill for Douglas
Thanks for reminding me. Bill Douglas (Buster's Dad) upset light heavyweight prospect Pedro Soto.
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Siarhei Khamitski stopping the unbeaten Buglioni
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Quirino Garcia is an interesting fighter. He went 0-18 at the start of his career and ended with a 40-28-4 record, yet had wins over Jorge Vaca, Terrence Alli, Meldrick Taylor, Simon Brown and Frankie Randall.
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:08 Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not

Edit: I'm sorry I see you have already seen the light
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Steveh583 wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:08 Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
Steveh583 wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:08 Surprised no one mentioned Buster Douglas. A journeyman in every sense of the word.
Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
Yeah just noticed mate. See edit above :TU:
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Steveh583 wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:21
oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20
Steveh583 wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:20

Absolutely not
I was already barked down.
Yeah just noticed mate. See edit above :TU:
LOL! :TU:
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Micheal Ayers was upset by a journeyman if I remember rightly
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Wasn’t Ross Purity considered a journeyman? He beat Wlad and got a draw with Morrison
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bigjack wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:22
oogiebe wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:20
bigjack wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 19:19

Journeymen usually have a string of defeats and generally show up to make up the numbers and happy to lose so they get regular work,that doesn't really fit the bill for Douglas
I will submit... :verysad:
:TU: Good man,you know we are right.
so then Sokolowski fits vs Webb; Sean Turner; Naylor Ball (to a lessor extent)
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Chris edwards was 1-6 ended up winning lonsdale belt outright
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Booth sheika
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Paul Wesley did Neville brown and silky Jones in 1 and 2 rounds respectively.
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Laszlar Bognar against Michael Gomez.

Did YouseffEl Hamidi beat Crolla? If he never got the decision I remember him beating him handily over 8 rounds on ITV back in the day.
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littlepug wrote: 11 Jan 2019, 20:24 Micheal Ayers was upset by a journeyman if I remember rightly
Do you mean against Roger Sampson ?. I don't think Sampson was a journeyman
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Tiger Jones vs Ray Robinson.....
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Johnson vs Tarver/Jones/Woods
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orbtastic wrote: 12 Jan 2019, 01:12 Booth sheika
That’s the one that immediately sprang to my mind as well.
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Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
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Also worth mentioning Toks Owoh losing to Glen Johnson... perception changes over time and Johnson obviously went on to establish himself firmly back in world class, but prior to the Owoh fight he was perceived as sliding towards journeyman status, having lost his four previous bouts, including to the aforementioned Sheikha. Though to be fair, given the level those losses were at, gatekeeper could be a more appropriate phrase than journeyman.
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Steve Little vs Michael Nunn
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banjo wrote: 12 Jan 2019, 07:05 Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
Luis Santana
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Controversial wrote: 12 Jan 2019, 07:18
banjo wrote: 12 Jan 2019, 07:05 Who was that bloke who twice beat Terry Norris by DQ?
Luis Santana
:TU:

Don't think he was up to much before those fights and ended up winning
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An obvious one that no one has mentioned yet, Steve Robinson. He was 13-9-1 when he got a surprise shot at the WBO world title with two days notice after the original challenger failed an AIDS test. Robinson won the title, went on to make seven defences and beat some very good fighters. Remarkable story.
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Controversial wrote: 12 Jan 2019, 07:36 An obvious one that no one has mentioned yet, Steve Robinson. He was 13-9-1 when he got a surprise shot at the WBO world title with two days notice after the original challenger failed an AIDS test. Robinson won the title, went on to make seven defences and beat some very good fighters. Remarkable story.
Of course,brilliant choice :TU:
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