Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 16 Feb 2019, 18:54
Yeah probably Klitschko but he hadn't fought for 2 years prior
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Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 16 Feb 2019, 19:25
Ballsy opening fight.
Yeah he's 39, and one of the smaller HWs in the top 20, but do not underestimate Povetkin. He is still a genuine HW contender who troubled Joshua in the opening rounds of his last fight.
If Usky is at his sharpest, and moves well, then I certainly expect Povetkin to tire second half, where Usyk can cruise to a wide points victory. If I was Povetkin, I'd go high volume early and try get Usyk out of there.
Yeah he's 39, and one of the smaller HWs in the top 20, but do not underestimate Povetkin. He is still a genuine HW contender who troubled Joshua in the opening rounds of his last fight.
If Usky is at his sharpest, and moves well, then I certainly expect Povetkin to tire second half, where Usyk can cruise to a wide points victory. If I was Povetkin, I'd go high volume early and try get Usyk out of there.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 08:29
Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:44Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.
For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 10:09
great yard stick to see where he is at, jummping straight in the deep end , a real fighter usyk , usyk i think will ko povetkin in the first 4rds . think it will be an open fight and quick , russia v ukraine will add fuel to it aswell
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 11:18
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 12:58
Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.bigman1968 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 08:29Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:44Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.
For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 08:41
I just checked at Riabinsky’s boxing company site.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 12:58Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.bigman1968 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 08:29Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:44Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.
For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Povetkin still listed as World of Boxing boxer, togever with Lebedev, Bivol etc....
And on Russian boxing news site wrote a thing of Povetkin changing owner.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 08:46
I guess I must have just read it on here. My badbigman1968 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 08:41I just checked at Riabinsky’s boxing company site.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 12:58Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.bigman1968 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 08:29Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:44Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.
For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Povetkin still listed as World of Boxing boxer, togever with Lebedev, Bivol etc....
And on Russian boxing news site wrote a thing of Povetkin changing owner.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 08:54
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 08:55
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 08:58
Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his cornerOnetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 09:09
He's been a top fighter regardless. Atlas made him duck wlad and waste time. Wasn't teddy with him when he got a dubious decision against huck? Either way my point remains, the best povetkin I ever saw was against Byrd and chambers and he still wasn't as good as usyk.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 08:58Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his cornerOnetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 10:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 09:09Was Atlas his manager? Trainers takes such a decisions??danconnollyeire wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 08:58Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his cornerOnetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
I guess his managers knew his chances vs top Klitchko and figured they can make more money when he still had zero losses.
He's been a top fighter regardless. Atlas made him duck wlad and waste time. Wasn't teddy with him when he got a dubious decision against huck? Either way my point remains, the best povetkin I ever saw was against Byrd and chambers and he still wasn't as good as usyk.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 10:29
Atlas is such an egomaniac he wouldn't take a position without some stroke. He was very outspoken about needing time for wlad. He's a pile of dung.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 10:49
..Ryabinsky was recently saying that Usyk vs Povetkin fight has not been finally decided upon as yet. According to him there are other options with Usyk vs Povetkin being one of them..
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 13:30
Just read what Riabinski said. Looks like he think that Povetkin should recover from surgery, and that’s will no let this fight happen. Looks like next Povetkin fight will be “recovery test fight”= some tomato can will be beaten by Povetkin in Kazan or Yelaterinburg-)
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 15:06
We shouldve know it was too good to be true...
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 15:54
It would make sense.
A big heavyweight who approximates in height (if not the talent) guys such as Fury, Wilder and Joshua.
It gets Usyk accustomed to the size, and quickly erases the doubts of skeptical fans who insist he is too small for the monsters of the division.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 15:58
there just saying hekenius is another name, goodbusiness to have several in talks
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 16:46
Seems to be a pattern with Matchroom these days unfortunately.
Tease some big names first then announce someone ranked way lower blaming the better fighters for wanting too much money when they reject a low ball offer.
Tease some big names first then announce someone ranked way lower blaming the better fighters for wanting too much money when they reject a low ball offer.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 17:00
lol, but even that big name to you was just old, shot, and overrated
so you spin that negatively , but then do the same to the suggestion that it might not be that opponent
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 23:41
That would be a good HW debut for Usyk. Given the recent signing of Fury with ESPN and likely postponement of Wilder-Fury II an, Usyk-Povetkin could be the most significant HW matchup in the near future!!
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 03:31
Robert Helenius would be a massive step back in calibre for Oleksandr Usyk – it would be a meaningless win over a fighter that hasn’t achieved a damn thing.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 10:00
Introduction to the heavyweight division. Against a massive opponent.
That's all that's necessary to justify it.
Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??
Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 10:43
I can't think of the last guy usyk fought that wouldn't be a sound favorite over helenius.SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 10:00Introduction to the heavyweight division. Against a massive opponent.
That's all that's necessary to justify it.