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Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 14:00
by candyslim
SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 11:06
Hope springs eternal, they say.
But I fear you're in for another disappointment.
Jacobs loves to throw those wide shots. Canelo won't have much problem besting him to the punch.
And if the Latin Snake can sit you on your ass, imagine what Canelo will do.
A drubbing? Yes, I expect one. But not the way you prefer.
You could be right but I think it's a tough one to call, it could go either way (assuming neutral officiating that is)
If Canelo were to do a number on Jacobs then maybe I might be persuaded to climb aboard his bandwagon. At the moment though he is to me a fighter dependent on a leg-up from the corrupt Vegas judges for his signature victories.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 14:45
by Verdi
Crawford has fought at 135, do you think we could ever see him drop back down to face Loma?
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 15:31
by SenorPipino
Verdi wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:45
Crawford has fought at 135, do you think we could ever see him drop back down to face Loma?
Absolutely not.
He's 31. He hasn't fought at lightweight in more than 4 years.
His big money fight focus would have to be with Spence at 147. Lightweight is history.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 15:33
by Onetimeonly
Verdi wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:45
Crawford has fought at 135, do you think we could ever see him drop back down to face Loma?

Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 15:33
by gilgamesh
Verdi wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:45
Crawford has fought at 135, do you think we could ever see him drop back down to face Loma?
Hell no.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 15:58
by boxing_rocks
greg wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 13:10
.."numbered" meaning exactly what? ...that their days are numbered?
No, it is like in ABC rankings: there is a champion, and there are #1,2,3,etc (numbered guys)
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 16:24
by boxing_rocks
Loma would handle the 135-lb Crawford who went distance with Klimov, Burns and Beltran.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 16:59
by Onetimeonly
Of course he would.

Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 17:00
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 16:24
Loma would handle the 135-lb Crawford who went distance with Klimov, Burns and Beltran.
I don't think I'd put a bet on that fight. But I'd certainly look forward to watching it! Seeing both men facing an opponent that poses a real threat.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:28
by jamamb
SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:54
The guy positively beamed and smirked on live television as he nicknamed himself "no mas chenko."
I don't feel "modest" and "humble" should describe him.
that seems like the type of cocky talk you usually love doesnt it. loma is so smart to talk like that
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 12:47
by SenorPipino
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:28
that seems like the type of cocky talk you usually love doesnt it. loma is so smart to talk like that
Not with Loma because he pretends to be a humble good guy.
I don't mind plenty bravado, but not if they're trying to push a fighter as a respectably modest guy.
The real Lomachenko sneaks out of occasion. Haughty.
And if you're referring to Shields, she's the real deal. Outspoken and cocky.
At least she's never allowed promoters to repackage her personality and sell her as lovable and full of humility.
She is who she is and doesn't care to apologize for it.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 12:54
by jamamb
SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 12:47
Not with Loma because he pretends to be a humble good guy.
I don't mind plenty bravado, but not if they're trying to push a fighter as a respectably modest guy.
The real Lomachenko sneaks out of occasion. Haughty.
And if you're referring to Shields, she's the real deal. Outspoken and cocky.
At least she's never allowed promoters to repackage her personality and sell her as lovable and full of humility.
She is who she is and doesn't care to apologize for it.
does loma say hes just a good quiet guy who never talks any bravado?
he taunts opponents all the time and talks cocky a lot. you should like him based on your apparent lovee for other fighters talking cocky and being arrogant. funny that you have such a different opinion on him. i mean they still push clar sheilds as the good american hard working girl from the bottom up but that doesnt bother u, so whats the deal u got with loma. does bravado not count to you if a european does it, is he not quite american enough for your liking
hell, hes soo smart too saying stuff like no mas chenko too right, gets ppl talking omg, him and clar are just so wise

Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 15:11
by SenorPipino
jamamb wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 12:54
does loma say hes just a good quiet guy who never talks any bravado?
he taunts opponents all the time and talks cocky a lot. you should like him based on your apparent lovee for other fighters talking cocky and being arrogant. funny that you have such a different opinion on him. i mean they still push clar sheilds as the good american hard working girl from the bottom up but that doesnt bother u, so whats the deal u got with loma. does bravado not count to you if a european does it, is he not quite american enough for your liking
hell, hes soo smart too saying stuff like no mas chenko too right, gets ppl talking omg, him and clar are just so wise
Nah, Loma's attitude, cockiness hidden behind feigned humility, rubs me the wrong way.
He's a phony. Be bombastic like Wilder and Fury and Garcia and even T. Lopez. No problem.
But don't let yourself be promoted as an all-around goody 2 shoes when it's not who you are.
His recent swipe at Mikey Garcia was quite disingenuous, criticizing a fellow champion who had the huevos to move up 2 weight divisions and take on one of boxing's best.
Meanwhile Lomachenko was fearful of moving up 1 division while Pacquiao would move down 1 to accommodate him.
Only the arrogant would go there.
And Shields has always been true to herself. Quite cocky at both Olympic games. What you see in the professional ranks is who she has always been.
You seem to think this is an American thing. You could not be any more wrong.
I love the dismissive attitude and brooding arrogance of Canelo.
He doesn't say outrageous stuff. He's actually quite quiet.
But he still strongly projects a silent bravado and an obvious distaste for everything that surrounds the boxing game.
That's what creates his charisma. That's what gives him enormous personality.
And the last I heard, Canelo hailed from old Mexico, not America.
Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 15:13
by jamamb
SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Apr 2019, 15:11
Nah, Loma's attitude, cockiness hidden behind feigned humility, rubs me the wrong way.
He's a phony. Be bombastic like Wilder and Fury and Garcia and even T. Lopez. No problem.
But don't let yourself be promoted as an all-around goody 2 shoes when it's not who you are.
His recent swipe at Mikey Garcia was quite disingenuous, criticizing a fellow champion who had the huevos to move up 2 weight divisions and take on one of boxing's best.
Meanwhile Lomachenko was fearful of moving up 1 division while Pacquiao would move down 1 to accommodate him.
Only the arrogant would go there.
And Shields has always been true to herself. Quite cocky at both Olympic games. What you see in the professional ranks is who she has always been.
You seem to think this is an American thing. You could not be any more wrong.
I love the dismissive attitude and brooding arrogance of Canelo.
He doesn't say outrageous stuff. He's actually quite quiet.
But he still strongly projects a silent bravado and an obvious distaste for everything that surrounds the boxing game.
That's what creates his charisma. That's what gives him enormous personality.
And the last I heard, Canelo hailed from old Mexico, not America.
lol what is the fakeness about him? is he saying he's a good sweet boi or anything like that? does he ever say he wouldnt dare to hurt ppls feelings and will never have some showman in his antics? he talks big and acts cocky in the ring all the time. im not sure why your painting him into the goody two shoes phony box. he acts and talks just like you say all the time you like, yet you find reason to dislike it specifically with him. yet others do it and you rave about it and call them geniuses. sounds like your the phony
if other ppl frame him as a humble good boi thats not his problem, no different then claressa getting the good american girl treatment from a lot of the media, that hasnt seemed to bother you
oh right, not mexican or american enough for you, the only type of fighters you ever seem to puff, senor

Re: Lomachenko's top five p4p list.
Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 15:26
by jamamb
btw, werent u one of the guys who called gary the true class of 126 after loma schooled him and picked gary to handily beat loma in a rematch just 2 fights later
