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Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 21:44
by SenorPipino
oogiebe wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 21:07 :lol: Perfect!
If he was truly content with fighting for free, Lomachenko would be back in the Ukraine training to try and win another gold medal in the 2020 Olympics.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 22:10
by Onetimeonly
squiggy wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 21:10 Two separate events. Nobody's arguing that Mikey should've fought Loma in 2014.
When did he run away from him?

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 01:03
by squiggy
You don't necessarily have to characterize it that way, but the reference was obviously to his leaving the division he and Loma briefly shared for the godawful showdown with Spence.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 03:11
by Onetimeonly
squiggy wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 01:03 You don't necessarily have to characterize it that way, but the reference was obviously to his leaving the division he and Loma briefly shared for the godawful showdown with Spence.
Mikey and arum will never do a fight in any division.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 03:25
by Best Coast
SenorPipino wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 21:44 If he was truly content with fighting for free, Lomachenko would be back in the Ukraine training to try and win another gold medal in the 2020 Olympics.
Good point!! I think it is Loma's watered-down version of trash-talk. Hopefully it gets Gervonta's dander up enough to fight Loma instead of the no-hopers he has been facing recently. The only world-class opponent Davis has beaten is Jose Pedraza and the way Gervonta dominated Pedraza (compared to Loma-Pedraza) makes it even more puzzling that he seems uninterested in fighting Loma.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 04:27
by Enlightened-One
ValMar wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 12:34 Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !
Lomachenko might say this, but he certainly won't mean it. A provocative statement like this attracts attention from the media, which helps remind people that he's competing this weekend. It would be stupid to think that the intention behind his words have a deeper meaning, other than to achieving this commercial goal.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 05:16
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 04:27 Lomachenko might say this, but he certainly won't mean it. A provocative statement like this attracts attention from the media, which helps remind people that he's competing this weekend. It would be stupid to think that the intention behind his words have a deeper meaning, other than to achieving this commercial goal.
Yet you criticise Abel Sanchez time and time again about his golovkin comments. Is that because you are stupid?

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 05:20
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 05:16 Yet you criticise Abel Sanchez time and time again about his golovkin comments. Is that because you are stupid?
Explain? Why have you mentioned GGG and Abel Sanchez? Are you lying or trolling?

Keep to the topic of the thread. If you want to discuss something else, create a separate thread or send me a private message.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 05:21
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 05:20 Explain? Why have you mentioned GGG and Abel Sanchez? Are you lying or trolling?

Keep to the topic of the thread. If you want to discuss something else, create a separate thread or send me a private message.
:lol: typical

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 07:43
by Onetimeonly
Best Coast wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 03:25 Good point!! I think it is Loma's watered-down version of trash-talk. Hopefully it gets Gervonta's dander up enough to fight Loma instead of the no-hopers he has been facing recently. The only world-class opponent Davis has beaten is Jose Pedraza and the way Gervonta dominated Pedraza (compared to Loma-Pedraza) makes it even more puzzling that he seems uninterested in fighting Loma.
Loma was paid well for his medals.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 20:19
by Best Coast
Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 07:43 Loma was paid well for his medals.
I dont doubt he was paid but question how well he was paid.

How much do you think he got paid in 2008? How about 2012? I know it's hard to give any accurate estimates...I'm just looking for a ball-park figure.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 20:23
by Onetimeonly
Best Coast wrote: 11 Apr 2019, 20:19 I dont doubt he was paid but question how well he was paid.

How much do you think he got paid in 2008? How about 2012? I know it's hard to give any accurate estimates...I'm just looking for a ball-park figure.
I have no idea, since I said it I'll venture a guess. 50k a month plus travel expenses and living?

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 20:33
by Best Coast
That sounds reasonable. Probably similar to what the Soviet bloc amateurs were making before the SU got broken up. At least it's probably not the slap in the face that Cuban boxers were getting in the 1990s. Casamayor says the last straw that caused him to defect was when the government gave him a bicycle for winning gold in the 1992 Olympics!! Joel said he traded it for a pig so he could feed his family before defecting!! :roll:

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 21:01
by Onetimeonly
A lot of them sold their medals. I just assumed loma was well compensated because the early title shot was more important to him then the money.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 00:15
by jamamb
a lot of countries pay well for medals, not millions, but i know in places like khazakstan even bronze got you at least 6 figures in us equivalent. plus salaries too etc... i know usyk also got a free apartment from the gov. the cuban story of casaymor doesnt really apply to the soviet bloc guys , at least anymore

a guy like ivan dychko wud be making more as an amateur and in wsb then he is now as a pro

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 17:24
by ValMar
Bob Arum : " Mayweather told me that Davis was not yet ready to fight Lomachenko".
The fukcing endless story. :verysad:

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 17:41
by Onetimeonly
ValMar wrote: 12 Apr 2019, 17:24 Bob Arum : " Mayweather told me that Davis was not yet ready to fight Lomachenko".
The fukcing endless story. :verysad:
If anything in this world is concrete, it's the word of Bob arum!

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 17:55
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 12 Apr 2019, 17:41 If anything in this world is concrete, it's the word of Bob arum!
LOL! Or any other promoter.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 18:04
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 12 Apr 2019, 17:55 LOL! Or any other promoter.
Generally speaking, I don't believe them, but I think in this case it is true.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 18:43
by gilgamesh
Any time a fighter says this you can 100% guarantee they're full of sh*t.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 18:43
by Onetimeonly
ValMar wrote: 12 Apr 2019, 18:04 Generally speaking, I don't believe them, but I think in this case it is true.
:roll:

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 18:44
by jamamb
lol if loma fought him for free then got spanked. i think tank has a great shot of beating up loma too.

Re: Lomachenko claims that he is willing to face Gervonta Davis for free !

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 18:45
by Onetimeonly
Loma is in the same political game Davis is. Floyd and Bob would never work together again unless it's huge money. And your boy is fighting crolla tonight.