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Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 10:52 Karma is a b"tch

Words aren't exactly evil actions. They're only words. He'll blast out Breazeale inside 3.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 10:28 He's not stupid at all.

i dunno, he seems pretty dim to me tbh, reading his comments and interactions on social media etc he often completely misunderstands the points and stuff like that etc. i know he had awful grades in school to and thats why he went to a small college even though he was scouted for football (or was it basketball) by a much bigger school...then i think he had to drop out of college because he was failing

but who cares, hes great to watch in the ring

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 11:45 i dunno, he seems pretty dim to me tbh, reading his comments and interactions on social media etc he often completely misunderstands the points and stuff like that etc. i know he had awful grades in school to and thats why he went to a small college even though he was scouted for football (or was it basketball) by a much bigger school...then i think he had to drop out of college because he was failing

but who cares, hes great to watch in the ring

It was basketball.
And no he did not flunk out of college.
His daughter was born with spina bifida when Wilder was 19. At 20 he dropped out of college to work full time to help raise money for doctors bills.
I'd he an asshole? Without a doubt.
Is he fun to watch? Without question.

If you can't seperate the boxer from the person then you are going to hate him.
If you just focus on what's happening in the sport for him he's a joy to watch.
Like many other fighters that are assholes I still watch and cheer them on

tiny_acres wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:08 It was basketball.
And no he did not flunk out of college.
His daughter was born with spina bifida when Wilder was 19. At 20 he dropped out of college to work full time to help raise money for doctors bills.
I'd he an asshole? Without a doubt.
Is he fun to watch? Without question.

If you can't seperate the boxer from the person then you are going to hate him.
If you just focus on what's happening in the sport for him he's a joy to watch.
Like many other fighters that are assholes I still watch and cheer them on

i just looked into it and a lot of articles say 'grade issues' as well as the birth of his daughter. maybe those articles are all lying?

I'm not saying he's stupid. To me I'm tiring of thoughtless comments coming from a boxer who has seemed to lose his sense of self since being taken to task by Fury. Of course I'll continue to watch him, with that super right hand, I'm saying it's gotten harder to root for him and I was a big fan early on.

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:10 i just looked into it and a lot of articles say 'grade issues' as well as the birth of his daughter. maybe those articles are all lying?

Irrelevant anyway. He ain't solving mathematical equations. He's trying to knock people out for a living.

ya no sh1t, ppl were talking of his intelligence though, just gives me a 'dim' impression from most things ive seen and read

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 12:13 ya no sh1t, ppl were talking of his intelligence though

I don't know if he's smart, but he is lacking in emotional intelligence. Most fighters probably are. Wilder is obviously not schooled in public speaking nor does he seem aware of the impact of what he says on his personal reputation. Between his excuses and silly comments, I am personally not "connecting" with him as I used to.

For me he's the most exciting heavyweight out there right now and as has already been said, words aren't actions. He's in the hurt business and would be a hypocrite if he said any different.

Sure, he could choose his words more carefully as AJ learnt to do, but then they wouldn't be coming directly from the heart.

I just hope he's using his head a bit more when it comes to the business side of boxing.
If a boring failed drug cheat like Fury can sign for £80, 000, 000 what's the most explosive exciting fighter since Tyson worth?

If Breazeale and Miller go as expected we're on for the heavyweight fight of the century.

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 11:45 i dunno, he seems pretty dim to me tbh, reading his comments and interactions on social media etc he often completely misunderstands the points and stuff like that etc. i know he had awful grades in school to and thats why he went to a small college even though he was scouted for football (or was it basketball) by a much bigger school...then i think he had to drop out of college because he was failing

but who cares, hes great to watch in the ring

Just speaking from personal interaction. I didn't give him an iq test. Not that they mean anything. I was 23/24 on an ESPN test that I finished in 5 minutes of the allowed 45. They said it was the highest score ever at that site. I ended up not taking the job because I've never done a power point presentation.

Knowing that he is a father makes the 'killing' quote even worse. You can still promote yourself without going to that level. He has it in him to be ok and has been on occasions. Great role model, he certainly ain't.

Duran always talked about killing opponents.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:27 Duran always talked about killing opponents.

That was in a very different time socially. Folks are "sensitive" today. That was all part of Duran's persona as a fighter. Wilder seems to be trying to adopt it as his own, but only of late. Contrived.

oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:37 That was in a very different time socially. Folks are "sensitive" today. That was all part of Duran's persona as a fighter. Wilder seems to be trying to adopt it as his own, but only of late. Contrived.

Nothing they say means anything to me. But if you're saying it was OK then and now it's not that's extremely hypocritical.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:41 Nothing they say means anything to me. But if you're saying it was OK then and now it's not that's extremely hypocritical.

Nope, not what I'm saying at all.

Duran was a little devil. I believe Jerry Quarry compared him to Charles Manson when he was announcing. Love em or hate em, Duran and Wilder play(ed) the bad guy role to a degree.

I've been a fan of both, but I think talking about killing an opponent is crossing the line in any era, but it's doubtful my opinion would matter to them.

to get more 'bad guy' press these days you should be insulting gays/transgenders and saying you love trump

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:58 to get more 'bad guy' press these days you should be insulting gays, transgenders, etc

Truly. You'd def get a bigger reaction.

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:58 to get more 'bad guy' press these days you should be insulting gays/transgenders and saying you love trump

Definitely, but the people upset by that stuff have never heard of wilder and boxing is such a minor sport they'll never hear the words.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 10:28 He's not stupid at all.

After my wife made me watch "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" and seeing Wilder barely able to hold a general conversation, I think he is as dumb as dirt.
His interviews mostly contain repeated catch phrases like you would expect an Isis prisoner to spout after suffering Stockholm Syndrome.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 15:07 After my wife made me watch "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" and seeing Wilder barely able to hold a general conversation, I think he is as dumb as dirt.
His interviews mostly contain repeated catch phrases like you would expect an Isis prisoner to spout after suffering Stockholm Syndrome.

Again, I'm just going off the few times I've talked to him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 15:17 Again, I'm just going off the few times I've talked to him.

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 14:58 to get more 'bad guy' press these days you should be insulting gays/transgenders and saying you love trump

Tyson Fury did a bit of the former and Kayne West did a bit of the later.

I don't know why but this quote from Dillian Whyte really cracked me up!

To Deontay Wilder "You Are No Killer, You Are a Crackhead!"

I hope Dill gets a fight soon.

oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 17:37 I don't know why but this quote from Dillian Whyte really cracked me up!

To Deontay Wilder "You Are No Killer, You Are a Crackhead!"

I hope Dill gets a fight soon.

He ain't neither one. And I hope he don't become either one.