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candyslim wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:42 EO Are you going to take credit for correctly identifying Fury as the winner before he fights Schwartz?

Looking at previous posts in this thread, the only one who didn't come right out and pick Joyce as the obvious winner was RedRyan and judging from his comment about Ustinov beating Rogan, I would say his "praise" for Ustinov, was clearly ironic.

Your "victory" would be like Ali proclaiming himself "The greatest" after beating up Jean-Pierre Coopman. True though it may be, It's better said after having just beaten a Frazier or a Foreman don't you agree?

Did I claim to have scored some sort of victory?

Your words might be eloquent and dramatic, but they bear no relation to anything I’ve claimed.

I am glad other people applaud you. As it reinforces my belief that people either can’t pay attention to others thoughts or they choose not to.

And that fact helps build my confidence.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 17:01 Joyce looked like garbage. Ustinov looked disgraceful. An absolutely horrible mismatch.

I called it.

This looks like what Candyslim is referring to. You just can't help yourself from self aggrandizement.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:46 I was referring to your original post vs your edited one where you added the 'retaliation.'

Prove that I edited my post.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:49 Prove that I edited my post.

Seriously? I hope you're kidding. At least you don't deny it.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:49 This looks like what Candyslim is referring to. You just can't help yourself from self aggrandizement.

I’d never heard of the phrase “self aggrandizement“ before, but it doesn’t apply to me.

I focus on being correct, not better than others.

Many people prioritise opinions over facts and I find that approach intolerable.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:50 Seriously? I hope you're kidding. At least you don't deny it.

Seriously? Are you claiming you can prove your accusation?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:52 I’d never heard of the phrase “self aggrandizement“ before, but it doesn’t apply to me.

I focus on being correct, not better than others.

Many people prioritise opinions over facts and I find that approach intolerable.

You are awesome! Priceless! Never go away!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:53 Seriously? Are you claiming you can prove your accusation?

Hey, you know the truth, I don't need to prove anything. Let's get back on topic and not allow this pittance of an 'issue' hijack the thread.

Anyone see the fight? I heard Joyce was jabbing from the outside in the first round and then reverted to walking down and thudding in the second. Even heard he showed some head movement in the first round. Adam Boothe at work?

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:59 Anyone see the fight? I heard Joyce was jabbing from the outside in the first round and then reverted to walking down and thudding in the second. Even heard he showed some head movement in the first round. Adam Boothe at work?

Seriously? You criticise my words after I watched the bout, but you didn’t even fückïng see it yourself? FFS!

You’re a lunatic!

For the record, from round two onwards, Joyce was defensively irresponsible whilst recklessly attacking Ustinov. He unsurprisingly met very little resistance en route to the stoppage.

Joe showed very little skill in this bout.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:33 Seriously? You criticise my words after I watched the bout, which you criticised, but you didn’t even fückïng see it yourself? FFS!

You’re a lunatic!

For the record, from round two onwards, Joyce was defensively irresponsible whilst recklessly attacking Ustinov. He unsurprisingly met very little resistance en route to the stoppage.

I only criticized your statement that you "called it." Like it was a big deal to call Joyce to win over Ustinov. What are you going on about?

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:35 I only criticized your statement that you "called it." Like it was a big deal to call Joyce to win over Ustinov. What are you going on about?

Read your other comments in this thread.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:36 Read your other comments in this thread.

Nah. You go. You care more.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:37 Nah. You go. You care more.

You are awesome! Priceless! Now go away!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:39 You are awesome! Priceless! Never go away!

Wow, I'm flattered. You've quoted me! Thanks EO!

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 18:59 Anyone see the fight? I heard Joyce was jabbing from the outside in the first round and then reverted to walking down and thudding in the second. Even heard he showed some head movement in the first round. Adam Boothe at work?

I'd like some VALUABLE input. Thanks!

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 19:44 I'd like some VALUABLE input. Thanks!

Just a typical Joe Joyce performance basically. He was slightly more patient early, but quickly just started to overwhelm Ustinov with relentless pressure. Ustinov tried to load up with a few big shots here, and there, but was taking a lot of heavy punishment, and after a clean left hook in the 3rd he decided he'd taken enough punishment for one night.

The question is gonna be can Joyce take a big shot when he's faced with another big puncher? He obviously can hit, and has a steady pressure, and pretty decent stamina it would appear. He's obviously not particularly fast or defensively skilled so he's gonna have to be double tough.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 20:07 Just a typical Joe Joyce performance basically. He was slightly more patient early, but quickly just started to overwhelm Ustinov with relentless pressure. Ustinov tried to load up with a few big shots here, and there, but was taking a lot of heavy punishment, and after a clean left hook in the 3rd he decided he'd taken enough punishment for one night.

The question is gonna be can Joyce take a big shot when he's faced with another big puncher? He obviously can hit, and has a steady pressure, and pretty decent stamina it would appear. He's obviously not particularly fast or defensively skilled so he's gonna have to be double tough.

So no evidence of new trainer making changes other than maybe the first round but nothing more than the patience. I'm not particularly a fan of Joyce but I was hoping Booth could make some inroads as he has the size and power.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 20:10 So no evidence of new trainer making changes other than maybe the first round but nothing more than the patience. I'm not particularly a fan of Joyce but I was hoping Booth could make some inroads as he has the size and power.

Well it's only 1 fight. It'd be time before you really saw any improvements. It's also hard to see if there's any noticeable improvement if he's not really being tested in the first place. He just keeps bludgeoning people to defeat. He's yet to be truly tested yet, but it'll happen pretty soon I'd imagine.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 20:12 Well it's only 1 fight. It'd be time before you really saw any improvements. It's also hard to see if there's any noticeable improvement if he's not really being tested in the first place. He just keeps bludgeoning people to defeat. He's yet to be truly tested yet, but it'll happen pretty soon I'd imagine.

A guy like Hunter would expose the shvt out of Joyce. Hopefully Booth will be able to find something to improve his defense at least.

Joyce just never looks like he's getting any better. Dubois will beat him.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 20:55 Joyce just never looks like he's getting any better. Dubois will beat him.

Joyce is a fringe contender at best.
I just don't understand the hype

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 20:58 Joyce is a fringe contender at best.
I just don't understand the hype

I agree. I wouldn't doubt that Ajagba could beat him now. He looked that bad. When he tries to punch straight, he pushes. His body and arms seem out of synch from one another, and of course, he's slow as molasses and easy to hit.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 21:01 I agree. I wouldn't doubt that Ajagba could beat him now. He looked that bad. When he tries to punch straight, he pushes. His body and arms seem out of synch from one another, and of course, he's slow as molasses and easy to hit.

He moves like he's in molasses.
He's almost like watching a slow motion replay