Do you consider Andrade a better 160lbs fighter than Jermall Charlo?

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apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 12:51 "a better 160lbs fighter", NOT a better 154-160lbs fighter. :TU:
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jamamb wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 12:28 hard to say, theyve both been fighting lacklustre opponents. andrade seems more fluid and better defensively to me, but charlo more powerful and more willing to step on the gas
No chance in hell andrade beats charlo 12-0
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Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:41 No chance in hell andrade beats charlo 12-0
i agree, to me its a 50-50 ish type of match up. they both do certain things better then the other
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
No, Charlo is no Sulecki. He would get inside and hurt Andrade.
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Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:06 I'm not gonna defend Andrade against Sulecki as it was a terrible fight to watch.

That said though, I think Sulecki is a better all around fighter than lemieux. He doesn't possess the lights out power that David does, but if you look at his Sulecki's fight with Jacobs, he actually pushed Jacobs more than he did Andrade, and Jacobs is a proven top level fighter.
Exactly, Sulecki doesn't have lights out power, and Andrade was still not attacking him. BJS has balls, while Andrade doesn't.
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Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 Haha.

Me and Datsue haven't always seen eye to eye over the years, but he's a smart guy and that's a pretty spot on assessment.
Yeah he nailed it pretty damn well.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:47 Exactly, Sulecki doesn't have lights out power, and Andrade was still not attacking him. BJS has balls, while Andrade doesn't.
Well I see what you're saying there. I just think that Lemieux is such a terrible boxer though, that quite often his foot work isn't good enough to get him in position to land the huge shots.

Plus he has like t-rex arms.
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jamamb wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:43 i agree, to me its a 50-50 ish type of match up. they both do certain things better then the other
Same, I could see a Charlo kd being the difference. Da really loops that left wide.
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Is Korobov really better than Andrade though?!
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:13 he would make Charlo look hopeless
I think Andrade would be a stylistically nightmare for Charlo. Ugly match up style.
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is jack culcay really better then charlo?
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Is vanes martirosyan a bigger puncher than charlo? Talk about an overreaction. Last week sulecki was better than andrade and now charlo couldn't land a punch? I got news for ya, charlo would knock sulecki out cold.
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apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:51 I think Andrade would be a stylistically nightmare for Charlo. Ugly match up style.
yeah same as he was a stylistical nightmare for Sulęcki. Andrade would win by wide decision after a snoozefest. it would look similar to all 3 of his MW bouts.
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Sulęcki would be competetive against Charlo, just like vs Jacobs. Andrade's style was a nightmare for Maciej, Charlo's style wouldn't though.
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Andrade would be a very difficult opponent for Golovkin while i think that Canelo should defeat him much more easily. styles make fights.
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Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 13:50 Is Korobov really better than Andrade though?!
He definitely is, which is why Andrade ducked him.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:47 He definitely is, which is why Andrade ducked him.
Is Korobov better than BJS do you think?
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:40 Sulęcki would be competetive against Charlo, just like vs Jacobs. Andrade's style was a nightmare for Maciej, Charlo's style wouldn't though.
You thought sulecki should be favored over andrade a few days ago. He has nothing to offer charlo either. Lol, pump the sulecki brakes. He's bang average.
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Nondescript wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:48 Is Korobov better than BJS do you think?
Not sure. Korobov is getting old.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 14:59 You thought sulecki should be favored over andrade a few days ago. He has nothing to offer charlo either. Lol, pump the sulecki brakes. He's bang average.
yeah and i was wrong. I have underestimated Andrade, probably because he fought so mediocre opposition recently. Andrade beats Charlo with ease, Charlo-Sulęcki would be close. Also, I'd favour Andrade over Jacobs.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 15:03 Not sure. Korobov is getting old.
Saunders is a cheater though, he arguably lost to Akavov, he looked very mediocre vs Monroe too, then he suddenly outclassed Lemieux and got caught before Andrade fight. i think that he's not the same without peds.
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charlo would bomb out sulecki
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maybe, Jacobs didn't though so i wouldn't be so sure.
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 15:13 Saunders is a cheater though, he arguably lost to Akavov, he looked very mediocre vs Monroe too, then he suddenly outclassed Lemieux and got caught before Andrade fight. i think that he's not the same without peds.
As many fighters, Saunders severely lacks motivation when he fights weak opposition. That is why he looked bad in some of his fights.

I think that almost all fighters on top level use some kinds of PEDs. BJS was just careless, because what he used was allowed by Britich boxing authorities.
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