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Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:16
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:14
oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Aug 2019, 21:17
It's not an impressive number.
Huh? I think that's very impressive.
For what it was I guess, but it doesn't make me go wow.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:18
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:16
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:14
Huh? I think that's very impressive.
For what it was I guess, but it doesn't make me go wow.
That's a good ppv number unless the fighters are making bank.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:21
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:18
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:16
For what it was I guess, but it doesn't make me go wow.
That's a good ppv number unless the fighters are making bank.
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
EDIT: I used US PPV prices. UK was 20 Pounds per view. My (BiG) mistake.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:25
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:18
That's a good ppv number unless the fighters are making bank.
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
You've got high expectations.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:26
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:25
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:21
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
You've got high expectations.
Apparently.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:30
by Autobarn
Right. Whyte needed Dave Allen. Surely.
Dave Allen on the undercard helped. It must have.
Sometimes you read some priceless stuff.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:25
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:21
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
You've got high expectations.
So have you when it comes to US fight figures.

Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:45
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:18
That's a good ppv number unless the fighters are making bank.
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
Let’s not forget UK is a much smaller place than USA. Also, not many fights in the UK crack 1 million.
This fight generated £5m+ in revenue. Take away Sky cuts. Whyte got his desirable purse.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:47
by margaret thatcher
If people think 280k is low it speaks positively to what they expect from Whyte as a draw.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:48
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:47
If people think 280k is low it speaks positively to what they expect from Whyte as a draw.
True. Maybe I was swayed by Eddie's hype on whyte being a PPV star. You think SKY and the promoters where happy with this number then?
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:50
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:44
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:25
You've got high expectations.
So have you when it comes to US fight figures.
When?
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:51
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:48
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:47
If people think 280k is low it speaks positively to what they expect from Whyte as a draw.
True. Maybe I was swayed by Eddie's hype on whyte being a PPV star. You think SKY and the promoters where happy with this number then?
I bet they were.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:51
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:48
True. Maybe I was swayed by Eddie's hype on whyte being a PPV star. You think SKY and the promoters where happy with this number then?
I bet they were.
They are. It’s only PPV due to Whyte’s purse demands. Nothing more.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:04
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:00
They are. It’s only PPV due to Whyte’s PPV demands. Nothing more.
So when were my standards for ratings too high? Lol
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:31
by skanksta
How and why are people unimpressed ? With the numbers ? with Hearn's promotion ?
TWO HUNDRED and EIGHTY THOUSAND people willing to pay £20 to watch the British Number 3 fight an unknown Colombian ?!
It should never have been PPV, but they still grossed over £5m when it's so very easy to steal for free ?
Amazing numbers.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:21
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:00
They are. It’s only PPV due to Whyte’s PPV demands. Nothing more.
So when were my standards for ratings too high? Lol
Calling FOX’s recents numbers poor. Because they don’t compare to the 70’s.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:22
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 16:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:04
So when were my standards for ratings too high? Lol
Calling FOX’s recents numbers poor. Because they don’t compare to the 70’s.
That was what I was noting when I said the numbers weren't good. Still comparing to history.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:24
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 16:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:04
So when were my standards for ratings too high? Lol
Calling FOX’s recents numbers poor. Because they don’t compare to the 70’s.
I said fox was doing well with these pbc fights in my very first post in that thread. Want to try again?
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:27
by Onetimeonly
The comparison later was ratings compared to major sports on major networks. Like I said yesterday, one or both of us got our lines crossed.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 16:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 16:21
Calling FOX’s recents numbers poor. Because they don’t compare to the 70’s.
I said fox was doing well with these pbc fights in my very first post in that thread. Want to try again?
But then you said all of Thurman’s recent figures were crap compared to the old days.
I do get your point. Other sports included, Boxing isn’t even top 5 in USA is it?
I’m from the UK and I know for a fact, MLB, NBA, NFL, College Football, ice hockey are all ahead of Boxing.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 16:54
by ewenhay
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:14
oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Aug 2019, 21:17
It's not an impressive number.
Huh? I think that's very impressive.
Yeah
280k for White v Rivas is a good figure. Not sure what people were expecting here but whatever it was it was unrealistic
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 17:20
by Gnome
skanksta wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:31
How and why are people unimpressed ? With the numbers ? with Hearn's promotion ?
TWO HUNDRED and EIGHTY THOUSAND people willing to pay £20 to watch the British Number 3 fight an unknown Colombian ?!
It should never have been PPV, but they still grossed over £5m when it's so very easy to steal for free ?
Amazing numbers.
Agreed. It had a strong undercard, personally I was most interested in the Price/Allen fight and I bet I wasn't alone on this.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 17:40
by oogiebe
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:21
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:18
That's a good ppv number unless the fighters are making bank.
Seems low to me. Considering it's Whyte vs Rivas headlining maybe I expect too much from a PPV. 280k PPV is only 22,397,220 in PPV revenue @79,99.
EDIT: I used US PPV prices. UK was 20 Pounds per view. My (BiG) mistake.
My error.
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 17:42
by margaret thatcher
And you still thought 22m was mediocre
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Re: Whyte vs. Rivas PPV Buys
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 17:53
by oogiebe
I compare to US historic numbers, so yes. I said I was still comparing to the past. So...smack away.