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Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 02:06
by lazboy
Ah yes I see it’s in the Middle East. I expect this event to go off, it will have fireworks, basically it’s the bomb. I expect ticket sales to explode.....
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 04:43
by man
so mexico, a boxing crazy nation, has
their first ever heavyweight champ and
saudi arabia, which cares as much about
boxing as they like women driving, buys
them out of watching him.
isn't capitalism beautiful?
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 05:23
by greg
..capitalism is always at work..just think of Las Vegas..anything is better than that and STILL major boxing events take place there..I don't mind third parties showing their readiness to host major events be it in Africa, Asia or Europe...
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 07:40
by Onetimeonly
man wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 04:43
so mexico, a boxing crazy nation, has
their first ever heavyweight champ and
saudi arabia, which cares as much about
boxing as they like women driving, buys
them out of watching him.
isn't capitalism beautiful?
I doubt Mexico cares much about Ruiz.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 13:35
by margaret thatcher
Ya, people just are quick and lazy to assume that because Andy has Mexican background that Mexico is just dying to see him and he's in great demand and that stadiums and stadiums will be packed for people screaming for him. But I think there's really hardly any good evidence to suggest it's true. I'd bet they still care about somone like Jr. Chavez far more,
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 13:36
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:35
Ya, people just are quick and lazy to assume that because Andy has Mexican background that Mexico is just dying to see him and he's in great demand. But based on what? I bet they still care about Jr Chavez far more.
Mexicans care about Mexican born Mexicans. ODLH had challenges winning over Mexicans who were loyal to JCS.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 13:48
by Wa1nuts
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz. The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 13:49
by oogiebe
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz.
The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
EDIT: Are they Mexican American? or Mexican Nationals? Just curious.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 13:52
by greg
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz. The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
...not meaning it sarcastically just curious: was there any support for Ruiz BEFORE there were any plans to fight AJ?
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:32
by Wa1nuts
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:49
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz.
The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
EDIT: Are they Mexican American? or Mexican Nationals? Just curious.
Mexican nationals. Especially in boxeo solo boxeo
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:33
by Wa1nuts
greg wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:52
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz. The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
...not meaning it sarcastically just curious: was there any support for Ruiz BEFORE there were any plans to fight AJ?
Not that I've seen very few posts at all about him before the fight. I've made a few comments myself along them lines. I only joined a few of them recently so can't comment on them
There is a lot of hate for Canelo on their calling him a clown basically
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:36
by Onetimeonly
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz. The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
Sure, in boxing groups.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:38
by Wa1nuts
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:36
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 13:48
I'm in a few Mexican boxing groups on Facebook an there is a lot of support for Ruiz. The only comments I've seen about Ruiz not being a true Mexican is from Puerto ricans
Sure, in boxing groups.
Surely that's a pretty good indicator?
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:41
by Onetimeonly
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:38
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:36
Sure, in boxing groups.
Surely that's a pretty good indicator?
An indicator for being a huge star? Do the groups have a few million members?
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:42
by Wa1nuts
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:41
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:38
Surely that's a pretty good indicator?
An indicator for being a huge star? Do the groups have a few million members?
No I mean an indicator as to whether he's liked or disliked. Maybe I'm missing the point?
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:45
by Onetimeonly
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:42
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:41
An indicator for being a huge star? Do the groups have a few million members?
No I mean an indicator as to whether he's liked or disliked. Maybe I'm missing the point?
I was responding to someone thinking that all of Mexico is behind him and would turn out for the fight. Basically thinking he's canelo.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:06
by ironbeard
TFKoB is plenty popular in Mexico. The fight would do huge numbers if held in a Mexican stadium in December. It would do excellent PPV in the USA.
The casuals are aware of TFKoB.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:09
by ironbeard
El Paso, TX would be an absolutely terrific place for the fight, too.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:16
by Onetimeonly
ironbeard wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:06
TFKoB is plenty popular in Mexico. The fight would do huge numbers if held in a Mexican stadium in December. It would do excellent PPV in the USA.
The casuals are aware of TFKoB.
I doubt it would crack 100k.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:28
by ironbeard
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:16
ironbeard wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:06
TFKoB is plenty popular in Mexico. The fight would do huge numbers if held in a Mexican stadium in December. It would do excellent PPV in the USA.
The casuals are aware of TFKoB.
I doubt it would crack 100k.
TFKoB is on every casual’s radar that I know personally. He is highly respected in the Mexican American community. There are major money people in Mexico who would back the rematch in Mexico if not for the contract.
He met with the President of Mexico. He was greeted by significant crowds on that trip.
I would definitely consider attending the fight in Mexico, Vegas, or Texas. Saudi Arabia?
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Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:32
by Wa1nuts
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:45
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:42
No I mean an indicator as to whether he's liked or disliked. Maybe I'm missing the point?
I was responding to someone thinking that all of Mexico is behind him and would turn out for the fight. Basically thinking he's canelo.
I'm Guessing he's pretty well known an if the boxing fans like him then obviously the American thing isn't much of an issue
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:35
by Onetimeonly
ironbeard wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:28
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:16
I doubt it would crack 100k.
TFKoB is on every casual’s radar that I know personally. He is highly respected in the Mexican American community. There are major money people in Mexico who would back the rematch in Mexico if not for the contract.
He met with the President of Mexico. He was greeted by significant crowds on that trip.
I would definitely consider attending the fight in Mexico, Vegas, or Texas. Saudi Arabia?
OK, he's a megastar. I don't know anybody that knows him or Joshua. Only a couple know wilder and fury.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:35
by Onetimeonly
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:32
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 14:45
I was responding to someone thinking that all of Mexico is behind him and would turn out for the fight. Basically thinking he's canelo.
I'm Guessing he's pretty well known an if the boxing fans like him then obviously the American thing isn't much of an issue
I never said anything about people liking or disliking him.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:55
by ironbeard
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:35
ironbeard wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:28
TFKoB is on every casual’s radar that I know personally. He is highly respected in the Mexican American community. There are major money people in Mexico who would back the rematch in Mexico if not for the contract.
He met with the President of Mexico. He was greeted by significant crowds on that trip.
I would definitely consider attending the fight in Mexico, Vegas, or Texas. Saudi Arabia?
OK, he's a megastar. I don't know anybody that knows him or Joshua. Only a couple know wilder and fury.
I did not say that “he’s a megastar.” However, how many Mexican American HW boxers have been on the late night circuit, Rogan’s Podcast, met personally (and very publicly) with the President of Mexico, and have been as high profile on pretty much every boxing platform?
He is popular in Mexico, and with Mexican Americans, as well as boxing fans. He is also well known in boxing circles worldwide. He has fought internationally several times. Thanks to his weight he is also a bit of a cult hero.
Re: Ruiz v. Joshua II Dec 7th in Saudi Arabia?!?
Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:59
by oogiebe
ironbeard wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:55
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 15:35
OK, he's a megastar. I don't know anybody that knows him or Joshua. Only a couple know wilder and fury.
I did not say that “he’s a megastar.” However, how many Mexican American HW boxers have been on the late night circuit, Rogan’s Podcast, met personally (and very publicly) with the President of Mexico, and have been as high profile on pretty much every boxing platform?
He is popular in Mexico, and with Mexican Americans, as well as boxing fans. He is also well known in boxing circles worldwide. He has fought internationally several times. Thanks to his weight he is also a bit of a cult hero.
I'd bet that most people who saw him on late night TV don't remember his name. Maybe your moniker!?
