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Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 14:27
by JMac
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 10:44
victor-romeo wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 18:12
Loma was never really hurt by Salido except below the belt and was on his way to KO'ing Salido near the end of the fight. Linares and Campbell hurt Loma and actually made Loma work harder..
He also didn't have experience in 12 round fights, so he started too slow and upped his workrate too late.
Exactly...that fight was unchartered territory for Loma in only his 2nd pro fight against a tough opponent He was a novice pro that night and learned more in that one fight than Gary Russell did against a whole bunch of nobodies. It was also a learning experience for his father the trainer who learned a lot about the pro game that night. It's much different from the amateurs.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:30
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 13:14
The part in the 7th round where people say Campbell hurt Loma, I'm not really sure about that, it seemed to me that Loma just got off balance for a bit. It's not really a hurt reaction to have unsteady feet from a body shot. Loma came right back and looked fine and clearly then hurt Campbell the same round.
Loma admitted Campbell hurt him.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:47
by greg
wow... being HURT by someone with a significant reach advantage, that must be very unusual in boxing ...what Loma actually said was and I quote: ""He has power and he gave me a couple of good shots but I wasn't hurt."
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:50
by margaret thatcher
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:30
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 13:14
The part in the 7th round where people say Campbell hurt Loma, I'm not really sure about that, it seemed to me that Loma just got off balance for a bit. It's not really a hurt reaction to have unsteady feet from a body shot. Loma came right back and looked fine and clearly then hurt Campbell the same round.
Loma admitted Campbell hurt him.
Did he, cus greg's saying he never said that
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:53
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:50
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:30
Loma admitted Campbell hurt him.
Did he, cus greg's saying he never said that
“It was the biggest stretch of my career because it was like an amateur fight, because it was so technical. Yes he hurt me, he has big power and he caught me with a couple of shots. I was close to getting the knockout but it doesn’t matter, the knockout, the score, it doesn’t matter, it was just the win.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:56
by margaret thatcher
I don't like that mentality, it shows in his performance in not pressing and being content to back off and just prance to a decision
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 15:57
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:56
I don't like that mentality, it shows in his performance in not pressing and being content to back off and just prance to a decision
He's undersized as a Lightweight. Going for the KO may get him beaten or hurt in fights that he'd otherwise win easy if he fought smart. I'm sure he knows this.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:02
by greg
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:53
“It was the biggest stretch of my career because it was like an amateur fight, because it was so technical. Yes he hurt me, he has big power and he caught me with a couple of shots. I was close to getting the knockout but it doesn’t matter, the knockout, the score, it doesn’t matter, it was just the win.
go figure! I'm desperately trying to find his interview in Russian to find out what he actually said
..what I found was in English and I quote:
"I said before it wouldn't be easy for me; he is smart, technical and he has a big reach," he said.
"He has power and he gave me a
couple of good shots but I wasn't hurt.
"I was close to the knockout but it doesn't matter about the result; we just win.
"I will watch it on TV and understand what happened in the fight, but if I am to score it out of 10, I will give it a seven."
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:05
by KiwiRider
greg wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:02
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:53
“It was the biggest stretch of my career because it was like an amateur fight, because it was so technical. Yes he hurt me, he has big power and he caught me with a couple of shots. I was close to getting the knockout but it doesn’t matter, the knockout, the score, it doesn’t matter, it was just the win.
go figure! I'm desperately trying to find his interview in Russian to find out what he actually said
..what I found was in English and I quote:
"I said before it wouldn't be easy for me; he is smart, technical and he has a big reach," he said.
"He has power and he gave me a
couple of good shots but I wasn't hurt.
"I was close to the knockout but it doesn't matter about the result; we just win.
"I will watch it on TV and understand what happened in the fight, but if I am to score it out of 10, I will give it a seven."
I got the quote from a BS article from the post fight presser.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:06
by greg
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:05
greg wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:02
go figure! I'm desperately trying to find his interview in Russian to find out what he actually said
..what I found was in English and I quote:
"I said before it wouldn't be easy for me; he is smart, technical and he has a big reach," he said.
"He has power and he gave me a
couple of good shots but I wasn't hurt.
"I was close to the knockout but it doesn't matter about the result; we just win.
"I will watch it on TV and understand what happened in the fight, but if I am to score it out of 10, I will give it a seven."
I got the quote from a BS article from the post fight presser.
yeah, I know..I found that too..
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:14
by Onetimeonly
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:56
I don't like that mentality, it shows in his performance in not pressing and being content to back off and just prance to a decision
Get with the program loma can do no wrong. He's the forums anti-floyd and no matter how many shitty fights he makes or no matter how he looks, it will never be his fault because Floyd sucks.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:17
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:14
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 15:56
I don't like that mentality, it shows in his performance in not pressing and being content to back off and just prance to a decision
Get with the program loma can do no wrong. He's the forums anti-floyd and no matter how many shitty fights he makes or no matter how he looks, it will never be his fault because Floyd sucks.
Which shitty fights has he made? He's generally taking on the best available opposition.
Granted Crolla wasn't one of those, but he's already beaten most of the Top Lightweights who have tangled with him. I assume they'll be looking to match him with the Teofimo vs Commey winner, which aside from Mikey Garcia is probably the biggest possible fight he could have at Lightweight for now...other than Tank Davis I guess.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:17
by greg
greg wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:06
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:05
I got the quote from a BS article from the post fight presser.
yeah, I know..I found that too..
I got it in Russian:
"Я говорил перед боем, что это не будет легкий поединок для меня. Кэмпбелл – умный, техничный боксер. Я был близок к победе нокаутом, но это бокс. Мы выиграли и не важно как – нокаутом, техническим нокаутом, Na mas или по очкам. Это не важно. Важно, что мы выиграли.
В седьмом раунде он не потряс меня. Нет. Он выбрасывал много ударов. Мне было непросто, потому что у него очень длинные руки. Конечно, это было очень, очень сложно", - добавил Ломаченко.
"He didn't hurt me in round 7, no."
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:23
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:17
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:14
Get with the program loma can do no wrong. He's the forums anti-floyd and no matter how many shitty fights he makes or no matter how he looks, it will never be his fault because Floyd sucks.
Which shitty fights has he made? He's generally taking on the best available opposition.
Granted Crolla wasn't one of those, but he's already beaten most of the Top Lightweights who have tangled with him. I assume they'll be looking to match him with the Teofimo vs Commey winner, which aside from Mikey Garcia is probably the biggest possible fight he could have at Lightweight for now...other than Tank Davis I guess.
He can only fight who's there but marriaga and Sosa were of no interest to me. There you go Gil, stick to the actual words and content. You'll look much less a fool.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:38
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:23
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:17
Which shitty fights has he made? He's generally taking on the best available opposition.
Granted Crolla wasn't one of those, but he's already beaten most of the Top Lightweights who have tangled with him. I assume they'll be looking to match him with the Teofimo vs Commey winner, which aside from Mikey Garcia is probably the biggest possible fight he could have at Lightweight for now...other than Tank Davis I guess.
He can only fight who's there but marriaga and Sosa were of no interest to me. There you go Gil, stick to the actual words and content. You'll look much less a fool.
Or I can just do this whenever somebody outpoints me
That way I can pretend I'm always right.
Just busting your balls though Saad. You're so used to being smarter than everyone on here that you don't know how to take it when you meet your equal...or superior
Now excuse me while I roll up this joint
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:41
by Onetimeonly
I've met plenty of equals, you most certainly wouldn't be one of them.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 16:43
by gilgamesh
Superior then?
You know I love ya Saad. I appreciate your fighting spirit on here indeed.
I'll concede you know more about the 70's, 80's and possibly 90's era than me, and you know more about current UFC than me, but not modern day Boxing.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:05
by oogiebe
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:12
by gilgamesh
Ya beat him to it
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:13
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:12
Ya beat him to it
LOL! That was one for each of ya!
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:38
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 16:43
Superior then?
You know I love ya Saad. I appreciate your fighting spirit on here indeed.
I'll concede you know more about the 70's, 80's and possibly 90's era than me, and you know more about current UFC than me, but not modern day Boxing.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:41
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:13
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:12
Ya beat him to it
LOL! That was one for each of ya!
It's the best way for me to shut down a never-ending argument before it starts. Someone like Gil that comes at me with the opposite of what I've said or something not relevant to my point isn't worth the typing effort. Speaking of not worth the effort, where's slim been?
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:43
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:41
oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:13
LOL! That was one for each of ya!
It's the best way for me to shut down a never-ending argument before it starts. Someone like Gil that comes at me with the opposite of what I've said or something not relevant to my point isn't worth the typing effort. Speaking of not worth the effort, where's slim been?
I have no idea. Didn't realize he's been absent. Now that you mention it...
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:46
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:43
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:41
It's the best way for me to shut down a never-ending argument before it starts. Someone like Gil that comes at me with the opposite of what I've said or something not relevant to my point isn't worth the typing effort. Speaking of not worth the effort, where's slim been?
I have no idea. Didn't realize he's been absent. Now that you mention it...
A break wouldn't be the worst thing for him.
Re: Campbell gave Loma his second toughest fight.
Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 17:49
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:46
oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Sep 2019, 17:43
I have no idea. Didn't realize he's been absent. Now that you mention it...
A break wouldn't be the worst thing for him.
It has been a while. Slim isn't so bad. Give him a break.