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None of this guys haven't even broken into the mainstream like Leonard or Hearns for that matter.

Then they would do, MayPac numbers, and that ain't happening. Boxing did lose many fans after Ali among other things, the list is long.

Might bring in money over seas and such, but England is the biggest consumers of the boxing market. Have no clue about others like Russia, Poland, Germany, Japan or China for that matter.

Ftr, I hope you're right. That's the only way it happens. I don't think it ever will.

Checked the PPVs Crawford have been in. Ain't good numbers, about 225k buys in total.

And, Crawford is high risk as F*ck to anyone.

It is a dream match for now, if this guys don't break out or something.

Crawford ppv numbers alone are irrelevant just as golovkins were

It has everything to do with the matchup.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 11:39

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 11:32 A fight with Crawford would do 1mm buys very easily.

Ggg never had much for ppv numbers either. When matched with canelo they did monster numbers

That's what I say.. Without GGG, Canelo was doing what 500k or less..

So it's like saying without Crawford, Spence is going to sticking around 300k buys.. The most money he will earn will be against Crawford.

Canelo did 1m buys versus Chavez Jr. and 900K versus Cotto.

GGG wasn’t asking for a 50-50 split, but Bob Arum is demanding one for Terence Crawford.

Bud’s average PPV buy-rate is 100K. And that’s something that should not be ignored or swept under the carpet.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 13:42 Crawford ppv numbers alone are irrelevant just as golovkins were

It has everything to do with the matchup.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 13:45 Canelo did 1m buys versus Chavez Jr. and 900K versus Cotto.

GGG wasn’t asking for a 50-50 split, but Bob Arum is demanding one for Terence Crawford.

Bud’s average PPV buy-rate is 100K. And that’s something that should not be ignored or swept under the carpet.

Understood. Cotto was a huge name anyway and did good ppv number's prior to this.. Also the Mexican-Puerto Rico rivalry..

Also, the Chavez Jr. was an all Mexican Showdown, and was heavily hyped..

Same thing applies, he needed a good name in front of him to keep it up.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 14:03

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 13:45 Canelo did 1m buys versus Chavez Jr. and 900K versus Cotto.

GGG wasn’t asking for a 50-50 split, but Bob Arum is demanding one for Terence Crawford.

Bud’s average PPV buy-rate is 100K. And that’s something that should not be ignored or swept under the carpet.

Understood. Cotto was a huge name anyway and did good ppv number's prior to this.. Also the Mexican-Puerto Rico rivalry..

Also, the Chavez Jr. was an all Mexican Showdown, and was heavily hyped..

Same thing applies, he needed a good name in front of him to keep it up.

Spence isn't canelo and Crawford isn't cotto. Not exactly apples to apples.

Terence Crawford is supposedly facing Egidijus Kavaliauskas on the 14th December.

Is anybody excited to see this bout? Does anyone think it’ll do big ratings?

Would Errol Spence Jr. be criticised for facing an opponent such as the anonymous Lithuanian?

Nobody gave Errol shit when his mandatory was even less known. I always like watching Crawford.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 15:30 Nobody gave Errol poo when his mandatory was even less known. I always like watching Crawford.

You know what. I can’t even remember his name. It just came to me now whilst I was typing. Ocampo.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 16:11

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 15:30 Nobody gave Errol poo when his mandatory was even less known. I always like watching Crawford.

You know what. I can’t even remember his name. It just came to me now whilst I was typing. Ocampo.

Lol, I couldn't remember it either. I kept thinking osuna or Ochoa. You can't always count on eo to slam his foot in his mouth when he starts crusading against fighters like GGG, kovalev and now Crawford.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 14:33 Terence Crawford is supposedly facing Egidijus Kavaliauskas on the 14th December.

Is anybody excited to see this bout? Does anyone think it’ll do big ratings?

Would Errol Spence Jr. be criticised for facing an opponent such as the anonymous Lithuanian?

Isn't that a mandatory?

Does it excite me? No, but as mandatories go, we've all seen worse.

Is it a better opponent than Carlos Ocampo (possibly even Lamont Peterson, by the time Spence fought him)? Yes.

Is he better than Porter, is he the type of opponent Crawford should be aiming for, or does he enhance his record in any way? No.

It is what it is. I don't see either side allowing Spence vs Crawford any time soon. Not enough money in it, yet, for either side to want to take the risk. Sad.

Multiple sources have informed Boxing Scene.com that Spence-Porter probably will have produced approximately 275,000 buys, based on initial projections from cable and satellite operators. Spence’s first FOX Sports Pay-Per-View appearance – a unanimous-decision defeat of Mikey Garcia on March 16 – reportedly generated about 330,000 buys.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 12:52 Multiple sources have informed Boxing Scene.com that Spence-Porter probably will have produced approximately 275,000 buys, based on initial projections from cable and satellite operators. Spence’s first FOX Sports Pay-Per-View appearance – a unanimous-decision defeat of Mikey Garcia on March 16 – reportedly generated about 330,000 buys.

So what was with the 350k stuff then

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 13:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 12:52 Multiple sources have informed Boxing Scene.com that Spence-Porter probably will have produced approximately 275,000 buys, based on initial projections from cable and satellite operators. Spence’s first FOX Sports Pay-Per-View appearance – a unanimous-decision defeat of Mikey Garcia on March 16 – reportedly generated about 330,000 buys.

So what was with the 350k stuff then

No idea.. Arum actually came out yesterday saying it did 175k, whilst admitting Crawford-Khan did 125k buys..

Mike C is quite a sourceful man.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 13:37

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 13:32

So what was with the 350k stuff then

No idea.. Arum actually came out yesterday saying it did 175k, whilst admitting Crawford-Khan did 125k buys..

Mike C is quite a sourceful man.

Is he a PBC lover prone to inflate for them or something? Or are these new reports off I wonder

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:01 Is he a PBC lover prone to inflate for them or something? Or are these new reports off I wonder

Mike C does report a from PBC boxers tbh... But still reliable source IMO.

I'd believe him over Arum..

I wonder who the multiple sources where who informed Box Scene.