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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 07:57
by siablo14
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Oct 2019, 01:39
So this fight isn’t gonna happen.
Instead Butler will challenge Murata for the WBA reg belt in December.
Huh?
Why not?
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 08:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 04 Dec 2019, 15:13
by Ruthless-RKO
Andrade will likely fight Luke Keeler next.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 04 Dec 2019, 15:19
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 15:13
Andrade will likely fight Luke Keeler next.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 04 Dec 2019, 19:13
by boxing_rocks
Bandog wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 17:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 11:57
He has turned down some chances offered him before hasn't he? Seems like he has.
If he wants the top guys to fight him, he needs to find a way to make some noise, and make people want to see him in the big fights. Winning dull decisions ain't getting it done.
None that I know of in the last 2-3 years. Saunders, GGG, or Canelo didn't want to fight him apparently. A risk vs reward thing? I think he should push hard for Charlo to get more credibility.
Sometimes boring sells, if you're good enough, like Floyd was. Andrade has a ways to go obviously. A 6'1" southpaw with great skills isn't a 1at choice for most.
Andrade's skill is overrated by some. He could barely pass by Vanes. Jacobs is better than him, and he fought GGG, Canelo and Derevo, while after 6 years, Vanes is still the best opponent Andrade has faced.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 04 Dec 2019, 20:13
by Boxing Prospect
Ducked Alimkhanuly to face Keeler...
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 04 Dec 2019, 20:49
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 15:13
Andrade will likely fight Luke Keeler next.
I’ve never heard of Luke Keeler nor Steven Butler.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 05 Dec 2019, 05:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 20:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 15:13
Andrade will likely fight Luke Keeler next.
I’ve never heard of Luke Keeler nor Steven Butler.
That one is for strict Brits.
Butler is fighting Murata now.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 05 Dec 2019, 10:40
by Yuzo
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 19:13
Jacobs is better than him
andrade beat jacobs in the amateurs.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 05 Dec 2019, 19:26
by boxing_rocks
Yuzo wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 10:40
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 19:13
Jacobs is better than him
andrade beat jacobs in the amateurs.
So ?
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 06 Dec 2019, 07:09
by Bandog
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 19:13
Bandog wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 17:26
None that I know of in the last 2-3 years. Saunders, GGG, or Canelo didn't want to fight him apparently. A risk vs reward thing? I think he should push hard for Charlo to get more credibility.
Sometimes boring sells, if you're good enough, like Floyd was. Andrade has a ways to go obviously. A 6'1" southpaw with great skills isn't a 1at choice for most.
Andrade's skill is overrated by some. He could barely pass by Vanes. Jacobs is better than him, and he fought GGG, Canelo and Derevo, while after 6 years, Vanes is still the best opponent Andrade has faced.
Vanes was a solid opponent then, 6-7 yrs ago, giving both Charlo and Lara very close fights, getting a draw with Lara. Andrade had a flash KD, but landed over 100 more punches. This isn't the same Vanes that came off a long layoff, moved up in weight to fight GGG. Andrade has beaten some other good fighters too, and just has to keep winning before getting a big fight. We'll have to wait to see what he is really made of. He won't fight Jacobs due to a close friendship, according to both. GGG and Canelo don't seem to want to fight him.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 12 Dec 2019, 20:33
by Ruthless-RKO
Confirmed. Just realised it’s a Thursday.
Farmer vs. Diaz is on the poster too.. hmm
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 12 Dec 2019, 20:51
by Enlightened-One
Am I the only person that recognises similarities between Demetrius Andrade and Terence Crawford?
Both men are extremely talented fighters with bags of unfulfilled potential, but both have also made huge mistakes with the management of their own carers?
No one cares about who Crawford or Andrade will face nowadays. And both men are responsible for this predicament.
There’s no reason for any of their big name rivals to face them, because their peers can earn decent (or even better) paydays elsewhere fighting easier foes.
I realise that what I’ve wrote may seem unkind, perhaps even a tad harsh, but I really can’t help feeling this way about these guys.
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 13 Dec 2019, 06:48
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2019, 20:51
Am I the only person that recognises similarities between Demetrius Andrade and Terence Crawford?
Both men are extremely talented fighters with bags of unfulfilled potential, but both have also made huge mistakes with the management of their own carers?
No one cares about who Crawford or Andrade will face nowadays. And both men are responsible for this predicament.
There’s no reason for any of their big name rivals to face them, because their peers can earn decent (or even better) paydays elsewhere fighting easier foes.
I realise that what I’ve wrote may seem unkind, perhaps even a tad harsh, but I really can’t help feeling this way about these guys.
Difference between the 2.. Andrade is signed to DAZN, who have all the best MW’s bar Charlo and Murata..
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Steven Butler - TBA
Posted: 13 Dec 2019, 06:59
by Stuarty
Yuzo wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 10:40
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 19:13
Jacobs is better than him
andrade beat jacobs in the amateurs.
Tom Stalker beat Josh Taylor in the ams..... Means nothing!