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bigjack wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 09:01

thechump wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 08:57 No he will say he does wanna fight but in reality he doesnt want any part of these two.

He won't want to jump in with either having just reclaimed his portion of the title,one will frustrate the hell out of him,the other will knock the hell out of him.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 10:02 And Ruiz, with more ability in one roll of fat than AJ could dream of, was beating up AJ again and ending his career, but AJ still had the balls to fight him again

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 10:29 Of course Andy trained, the 283 was just weighted sombrero mind games, remember?

bigjack wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 11:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 10:29 Of course Andy trained, the 283 was just weighted sombrero mind games, remember?

Move on now,let it be

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 19:47

bigjack wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 11:11

Move on now,let it be

I promise, that was the last one

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 20:05 Only time will tell oog

KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 13:43 I see Fury beating Wilder, so then a rematch.
That takes care of 2020.
So no, they won't fight AJ next year.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 20:29

KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 13:43 I see Fury beating Wilder, so then a rematch.
That takes care of 2020.
So no, they won't fight AJ next year.

Can see that going either way. Furys problem is that he just throws so few shots.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 15:18 Well, if you think AJ is ducking, he is 4-5 years younger than Wilder, and maybe then he waits him out and fights 'old' Tay?

tiny_acres wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 21:17

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 20:29

Can see that going either way. Furys problem is that he just throws so few shots.

But the more he throws the more he opens himself up for Wilder to connect.
It's going to be a boring fight again

Ezzard wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020, 14:54

tiny_acres wrote: ↑15 Dec 2019, 21:17
But the more he throws the more he opens himself up for Wilder to connect.
It's going to be a boring fight again

I know what you mean but because of wilders power and furys concentration span I felt the first fight was tense all the way through.

Wilder is usually behind in his fights. Or should be. Really looking forward to the rematch.

Ezzard wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020, 02:41 Wilder has improved and seems to have so much confidence in his KO ability. He was desperate against Fury but I don't think he will be again. He's the more improved fighter.

That late KD maybe proved a point to himself.. The last 2 wins have been one punch finishes hat anyone in the history of the sport would have been proud of.

skanksta wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 14:46 Probably Wilder as his 3rd fight after Pulev then Whyte/Usyk.

Wouldn't be a huge surprise if we got Pulev, Whyte, Usyk, Ruiz 3, Joe Joyce and Jarrell Miller, tho' would it ?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020, 14:50

Ezzard wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020, 02:41 Wilder has improved and seems to have so much confidence in his KO ability. He was desperate against Fury but I don't think he will be again. He's the more improved fighter.

That late KD maybe proved a point to himself.. The last 2 wins have been one punch finishes hat anyone in the history of the sport would have been proud of.

In what ways do you think he's improved. Since Fury he has a fight going 90 seconds vs the division's slowest and easiest to hit contender--one absolutely tailor made for him-- and a fight where he lost pretty much all 7 rounds until the KO. Ortiz was outboxing him easier than he did in their first fight and I don't think Ortiz is as good as Fury. It will be a problem if Wilder is giving away rounds more easily vs an opponent who has actually been the distance with him.

I think Wilder will win, but this improvement stuff seems like reaching based on how his fights since actually went. Losing 6 of 7 rounds wasn't a positive and it didn't cause him to beat Ortiz., he won inspite of that not because it It's the same old Wilder with all the limitations and losing rounds until the big shot lands. He did this before facing Fury too. Fury is better than Breazeale and the Cuban grandad and will be having Wilder look crude and clumsy again until the KO comes brutally.

We might see Wilder open that cut up, Fury lose that extra bit of concentration and confidence, and then boom. But make no mistake, Wilder losing rounds isn't some laudable quality that's causing him to eventually win fights. It sounds kinda funny tbh, it's like people have just tried to cover all the ground whether he's winning or losing. In that way, he really can do no wrong. If he doesn't win a second of the fight until scoring a lucky 12th round KO---'see, patience paid off!!'

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020, 14:50

Ezzard wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020, 02:41 Wilder has improved and seems to have so much confidence in his KO ability. He was desperate against Fury but I don't think he will be again. He's the more improved fighter.

That late KD maybe proved a point to himself.. The last 2 wins have been one punch finishes hat anyone in the history of the sport would have been proud of.

In what ways do you think he's improved. Since Fury he has a fight going 90 seconds vs the division's slowest and easiest to hit contender--one absolutely tailor made for him-- and a fight where he lost pretty much all 7 rounds until the KO. Ortiz was outboxing him easier than he did in their first fight and I don't think Ortiz is as good as Fury. It will be a problem if Wilder is giving away rounds more easily vs an opponent who has actually been the distance with him.

I think Wilder will win, but this improvement stuff seems like reaching based on how his fights since actually went. Losing 6 of 7 rounds wasn't a positive and it didn't cause him to beat Ortiz., he won inspite of that not because it It's the same old Wilder with all the limitations and losing rounds until the big shot lands. He did this before facing Fury too. Fury is better than Breazeale and the Cuban grandad and will be having Wilder look crude and clumsy again until the KO comes brutally.

We might see Wilder open that cut up, Fury lose that extra bit of concentration and confidence, and then boom. But make no mistake, Wilder losing rounds isn't some laudable quality that's causing him to eventually win fights. It sounds kinda funny tbh, it's like people have just tried to cover all the ground whether he's winning or losing. In that way, he really can do no wrong. If he doesn't win a second of the fight until scoring a lucky 12th round KO---'see, patience paid off!!'