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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 10:03
by fizzjambo
Verdi wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020, 07:51
If DDD can do a number on Joyce I'll join the hype train. Joyce gives any top HW a tough fight. Personally at this stage I think Joyce wins, but I doubt the fight will happen, it doesn't make sense for Joyce.
I think it makes perfect sense for Joyce. The four ‘world’ belts are probably tied up for the entirety of 2020 unless someone picks him as a voluntary, and age isn’t on his side.
Dubois has a bit of hype behind him and is being pushed hard by BT. A win over him could help push Joyce into the frame as a reasonably lucrative voluntary, or at least heighten the chances of that
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 10:09
by polecateddy
Bit of a Lewis v Mason flavour, and probably with much the same result for the more athletic fighter. Joyce will presumably be hit at will, and has the disadvantages of already being the older, slower fighter. Still interesting as a bit of a test for the much more talented Dubois.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 13:26
by tony1234
Hopefully this comes off, Dubois would be favourite but at least it makes for an interesting fight to test him and much more of a test than the Gorman fight was
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 14:24
by bigjack
DDD will ko Joyce
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 19:48
by danconnollyeire
The gloves are off for this one will be electric
Best chance Joyce has is if he starts throwing punches now, they might land by the time the fight starts
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 20:24
by oogiebe
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020, 19:48
The gloves are off for this one will be electric
Best chance Joyce has is if he starts throwing punches now, they might land by the time the fight starts
His lack of speed is legendary.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 22:05
by margaret thatcher
People may laugh at slow Joe, but his lack of speed makes him utterly untimeable . You see him starting to throw a punch, you step back and duck, raise your hands, circle the ring a few times, do a couple feints, and only then as you think your are safe and step back in to attack does the punch reach your chen
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 22:36
by Cyclops
This should be brilliant if it comes off. Both are obviously really nice lads and it’s almost a shame. Sorry everyone but i think Joyce rallies to stop Dubois late after a corking battle. Gorman was too soft for Dubois but Joyce will old man him.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 23:35
by margaret thatcher
That Sam Jones guy really wants to be Eddeh. But then again so do most
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 04:40
by Gnome
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020, 22:05
People may laugh at slow Joe, but his lack of speed makes him utterly untimeable . You see him starting to throw a punch, you step back and duck, raise your hands, circle the ring a few times, do a couple feints, and only then as you think your are safe and step back in to attack does the punch reach your chen
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 07:31
by Roars Like Me
I have no evidence whatsoever for this but I can see Dubois doing a chicken dance at some point.
Joyce could well be the one to do it to him. He's fought better fighters and DDD hasn't been tested at all, so I can't jump the train until he gets through an actual test, Joyce is that, albeit a slow motion one.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 07:37
by JimJim2009
Gnome wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 04:40
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020, 22:05
People may laugh at slow Joe, but his lack of speed makes him utterly untimeable . You see him starting to throw a punch, you step back and duck, raise your hands, circle the ring a few times, do a couple feints, and only then as you think your are safe and step back in to attack does the punch reach your chen
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 10:20
by samwbr
Adam Booth had a few bits to say about Joyce on Tris' latest podcast.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 10:55
by cormack
DDD KO for me .
Both fighters are heavy handed and not the fastest movers so I see a slug fest .
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 10:59
by danconnollyeire
In all seriousness Joyce has mixed in with the best in the world, both sparring, World Series and amatuer, so he's no mug but he is comically slow. He will ask a lot of questions of Dubois but I doubt he wins, mostly because of his comical slowness...
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 14:02
by Ezzard
Big fan of both men as boxers and as personalities in interviews.
Can't help but think this is a bit of a man versus boy contest. There is more pressure on Joe as he has to win. But even so. I reckon Joe will prevail with a late stoppage.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 17:56
by lillywhite14
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020, 23:35
That Sam Jones guy really wants to be Eddeh. But then again so do most
He’s a proper little wanker. Joyce’s fluffer.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 18:22
by Cyclops
samwbr wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 10:20
Adam Booth had a few bits to say about Joyce on Tris' latest podcast.
Are they still together?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 06 Jan 2020, 21:20
by TheLeprechaun
Joyce is a starching waiting to happen
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 04:06
by samwbr
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 18:22
samwbr wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 10:20
Adam Booth had a few bits to say about Joyce on Tris' latest podcast.
Are they still together?
Yeah
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 05:08
by Pukka Cheese
Great fight
Hope the EBU is on the line. Brit, CW, euro & the minor ABC belts will make for a great haul...
Winner should call out Chisora.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 07:34
by danconnollyeire
I remember when Joyce turned pro, Haye was talking about throwing him in a 10 rounder against a guy with a decent record on his debut cos of his age to get him a title fight quickly. 2 years later he looks miles off. Jennings and Stiverene are pretty good wins under 10 fights if you're 25 but at 34, he ain't learning much
He needs to take the Dubois fight and find out his level quickly. If he can, he can then mix it with the likes of Chisora, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Povetkin, Hunter. If he loses, at least he knows his level... if he can't beat Dubois he won't get close to AJ , Wilder etc.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 09:58
by jamesmcdonnell
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 21:20
Joyce is a starching waiting to happen
His lack of defence is likely to be his undoing the first time he faces a decent aggressive puncher.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 10:07
by Ruthless-RKO
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 09:58
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 21:20
Joyce is a starching waiting to happen
His lack of defence is likely to be his undoing the first time he faces a decent aggressive puncher.
I would never be surprised if Wilder knocked him out with his first clean punch in the opening round.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Daniel Dubois - TBA
Posted: 08 Jan 2020, 07:37
by Coco
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 07:34
I remember when Joyce turned pro, Haye was talking about throwing him in a 10 rounder against a guy with a decent record on his debut cos of his age to get him a title fight quickly. 2 years later he looks miles off. Jennings and Stiverene are pretty good wins under 10 fights if you're 25 but at 34, he ain't learning much
He needs to take the Dubois fight and find out his level quickly. If he can, he can then mix it with the likes of Chisora, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Povetkin, Hunter. If he loses, at least he knows his level... if he can't beat Dubois he won't get close to AJ , Wilder etc.
These guys have been round the gyms enough to know what heir level, they are just waiting for the best opportunity.