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Steel City wrote: ↑03 Apr 2020, 14:00 The most Intimidating heavyweight right now. Have you heard what he comes out to - he's even chose ringwalk music to add to the intimidation.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Apr 2020, 11:12 He actually reminds me a lot of early 2000's Ukrainian HW Volodymyr Virchis.

Both big, strong, and heavy handed but with slow feet and hands.

Virchis had a good run, but being wasted while he fought a slick boxer in Gomez wasn't the best idea. If Makhmudov takes boxing seriously he can be a contender in this pishpoor era.

If his power carries to the next echelon and his chin doesn't suck he should be able to win most firefights against the garbage contenders around today. There aren't many slick boxers like Gomez around so being slower might not be as big of a detriment as it would have been a few years ago.

pound per pound wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 09:50

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Apr 2020, 11:12 He actually reminds me a lot of early 2000's Ukrainian HW Volodymyr Virchis.

Both big, strong, and heavy handed but with slow feet and hands.

Virchis had a good run, but being wasted while he fought a slick boxer in Gomez wasn't the best idea. If Makhmudov takes boxing seriously he can be a contender in this pishpoor era.

If his power carries to the next echelon and his chin doesn't suck he should be able to win most firefights against the garbage contenders around today. There aren't many slick boxers like Gomez around so being slower might not be as big of a detriment as it would have been a few years ago.

That's to harsh. Virchs was a slug and didn't have Makhmudov's skills or power. I do agree with you, the top ten today has very few slick or defensive boxers. Fury is the only one. I still think Makhmudov has sledgehammers for fists, and few if any heavyweights now or then had the chin or body to deal with it. With Makhmudov, his accuracy is very good. He seldom misses, and when you not fasted, handed accuracy and timing mean a lot.

The best three heavwyeights, at least for now are Joshua, Fury, and let's be nice and say Wilder is 3rd.

Makhmudov hits hard enough to take all three out, with one good punch spelling the beginning of the end each of them.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2020, 14:01

Steel City wrote: ↑03 Apr 2020, 14:00 The most Intimidating heavyweight right now. Have you heard what he comes out to - he's even chose ringwalk music to add to the intimidation.

That head tick adds to his fearsome appearaance.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 15:27

pound per pound wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 09:50


That's to harsh. Virchs was a slug and didn't have Makhmudov's skills or power. I do agree with you, the top ten today has very few slick or defensive boxers. Fury is the only one. I still think Makhmudov has sledgehammers for fists, and few if any heavyweights now or then had the chin or body to deal with it. With Makhmudov, his accuracy is very good. He seldom misses, and when you not fasted, handed accuracy and timing mean a lot.

The best three heavwyeights, at least for now are Joshua, Fury, and let's be nice and say Wilder is 3rd.

Makhmudov hits hard enough to take all three out, with one good punch spelling the beginning of the end each of them.

I don't think it's harsh at all. Virchis was hardly a slug. He was incredibly powerful and had sneaky skills. He was right there to have got the win over Chagaev, who was a constant top ten in a much better division than today. Drunk off his nut he still managed to take a few round against Gomez. Virchis would be a titlist today.

Makhmudov may prove to be more skillful and powerful, but he'll need to prove that in the ring first. Virchis is a much more realistic comparison at this point than George Foreman.

pound per pound wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 10:53

punchoutsb wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 15:27

I don't think it's harsh at all. Virchis was hardly a slug. He was incredibly powerful and had sneaky skills. He was right there to have got the win over Chagaev, who was a constant top ten in a much better division than today. Drunk off his nut he still managed to take a few round against Gomez. Virchis would be a titlist today.

Makhmudov may prove to be more skillful and powerful, but he'll need to prove that in the ring first. Virchis is a much more realistic comparison at this point than George Foreman.

I don't disagree that Virchis could punch. From what I've seen Makmudov's has faster hands and better power.

No one remembers Virchis today. He might be top ten, due to the lack of talent in the division in 2020, but no more. I think Foreman is a better comparison for Makhmudov both in hitting power and intimidation.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 02:22 Ya, saw that one. He got rocked early and had a spectacular come back KO. He also got KO'd by Magomed Omarov back in 2012, then a week later he won a WSB fight by stoppage and won his next 10 wsb fights. Funny enough his form seems to have improved after getting KO'd. He won a tournament with top Russian amateurs shortly after too.

Nistor beat AJ (stoppage), Wallin (stoppage), Hrgovic, and Vianello in the ams/wsb....though looked pretty dumpy in the 2 pro fights I saw him. You'd never guess watching those fights that he did so much in the ams/wsb

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 10:22 Ya, he got starched, lots of good fighters get stopped as ams, AJ, Wilder, Ortiz, Lewis, Joyce, ...Tua got brutally KTFO but then was iron chinned as a pro...but his legs are totally gone for a few seconds here. Kinda the same thing he had a bit vs Nistor, head seems there but legs jelly. He protested but you can see him stagger some even after the stoppage, in the ams a ref is sure to a stop a fight like this, though perhaps he does have really good recovery and coulda made it back. With his defense we should get to see him hurt as a pro too eventually and then how he responds...

tbf he did go on his best run after losing this one

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2020, 21:10 Ya a guy like Pulev is old and stale now, but he had a very ambitious early career. They fought themselves up to contender status.