The problem is Wilder has nothing to hold on to this time. There was no competition here he lost clearly and that will probably influence his performance big time. Also I highly doubt he will learn anything significant in these 3 months when he barely improved in his entire carreer. He is basically this eras post prime Tyson. A headhunter who can only win if the opposition is afraid or makes big mistakes.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 03 Mar 2020, 05:09
by danconnollyeire
Winter king wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 04:46
The problem is Wilder has nothing to hold on to this time. There was no competition here he lost clearly and that will probably influence his performance big time. Also I highly doubt he will learn anything significant in these 3 months when he barely improved in his entire carreer. He is basically this eras post prime Tyson. A headhunter who can only win if the opposition is afraid or makes big mistakes.
A little disingenuous Tyson could box.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 03 Mar 2020, 09:50
by TheGman
Hope he wears that suit again with that knob rapper leading the way shouting black black black black,he was fckin annoying i know it was black history day or something like that but he was piśśin me off
Winter king wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 04:46
The problem is Wilder has nothing to hold on to this time. There was no competition here he lost clearly and that will probably influence his performance big time. Also I highly doubt he will learn anything significant in these 3 months when he barely improved in his entire carreer. He is basically this eras post prime Tyson. A headhunter who can only win if the opposition is afraid or makes big mistakes.
A little disingenuous Tyson could box.
Yeah, Tyson was an underrated boxer. Ps did anyone see his recent podcast with SRL? one of the best podcasts listened to recently.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 03 Mar 2020, 11:00
by Cyclops
thechump wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 09:50
Hope he wears that suit again with that knob rapper leading the way shouting black black black black,he was fckin annoying i know it was black history day or something like that but he was piśśin me off
He should walk in alone with no gown like Mike Tyson.
There's a thread on a particularly moronic boxing forum that I don't often frequent about how Wilder had Tyson kicked out of a club once. Don't know if it's true. Anyway, the Black Nationalist lot are in full meltdown on there. They can't get their head around English people and English fighters supporting each other despite the fact they're different colours.
I mean, everyone hates England (regardless of the colour of the players) when they play football or Rugby, that's expected. But when it comes to boxing, even Scottish people suddenly like us again.
thechump wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 09:50
Hope he wears that suit again with that knob rapper leading the way shouting black black black black,he was fckin annoying i know it was black history day or something like that but he was piśśin me off
He should walk in alone with no gown like Mike Tyson.
There's a thread on a particularly moronic boxing forum that I don't often frequent about how Wilder had Tyson kicked out of a club once. Don't know if it's true. Anyway, the Black Nationalist lot are in full meltdown on there. They can't get their head around English people and English fighters supporting each other despite the fact they're different colours.
I mean, everyone hates England (regardless of the colour of the players) when they play football or Rugby, that's expected. But when it comes to boxing, even Scottish people suddenly like us again.
Got Mike Tyson kicked out of a club? I doubt that very much Mike Tyson is a Celeb wherever he goes Wilder is only a Celeb in his home town. Tyson Fury is right when he says he introduced Wilder to big time boxing because before the first fight hardly anyone outside of boxing knew Wilder lol.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 03 Mar 2020, 13:31
by PetterXD
IMO Wilder is done. He is 34 years old at the moment and there are still guys that deserves a title fight like Whyte, Uzyk. He would have to beat some of these other guys to even be worth talking about. Therefore I don't think a Fury vs. Wilder 3 should happen. But it might happen anyway so we'll see.
clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 11:00
He should walk in alone with no gown like Mike Tyson.
There's a thread on a particularly moronic boxing forum that I don't often frequent about how Wilder had Tyson kicked out of a club once. Don't know if it's true. Anyway, the Black Nationalist lot are in full meltdown on there. They can't get their head around English people and English fighters supporting each other despite the fact they're different colours.
I mean, everyone hates England (regardless of the colour of the players) when they play football or Rugby, that's expected. But when it comes to boxing, even Scottish people suddenly like us again.
Got Mike Tyson kicked out of a club? I doubt that very much Mike Tyson is a Celeb wherever he goes Wilder is only a Celeb in his home town. Tyson Fury is right when he says he introduced Wilder to big time boxing because before the first fight hardly anyone outside of boxing knew Wilder lol.
Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑02 Mar 2020, 08:06
A cash grab by all involved.
Aye i read a thing earlier about Floyd offering to train Wilder for the rematch.... Prick
With the little time left available before a rematch he may as well have Ronnie Pickering and the Wealdstone Raider by his side. Would save on the cost and he will still only have a punchers chance.
Aye i read a thing earlier about Floyd offering to train Wilder for the rematch.... Prick
With the little time left available before a rematch he may as well have Ronnie Pickering and the Wealdstone Raider by his side. Would save on the cost and he will still only have a punchers chance.
With the little time left available before a rematch he may as well have Ronnie Pickering and the Wealdstone Raider by his side. Would save on the cost and he will still only have a punchers chance.
Who?
Ronnie fornicating Pickering
Stu your simple response got a burst of laughter whilst on my train journey home!
Stu your simple response got a burst of laughter whilst on my train journey home!
Funnily enough i watched that video again the other day! It's his poor suffering wife just sitting there at the end of her tether while he shouts out the window chanting for a 'bare knuckle'
Winter king wrote: ↑03 Mar 2020, 04:46
The problem is Wilder has nothing to hold on to this time. There was no competition here he lost clearly and that will probably influence his performance big time. Also I highly doubt he will learn anything significant in these 3 months when he barely improved in his entire carreer. He is basically this eras post prime Tyson. A headhunter who can only win if the opposition is afraid or makes big mistakes.
A little disingenuous Tyson could box.
True.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 08:02
by Matt W
This is going to be painful for Wilder from the first press conference. Tyson owns him and they both know it. Fury will really get in his head during the build and will beat him easier this time. Wilder can't adapt either.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 08:19
by Noxy
I was hoping this wouldn’t happen but it is happening. I just hope Fury and Josh both come through so they can meet each other. That’s THE fight.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 10:39
by Cyclops
Matt W wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 08:02
This is going to be painful for Wilder from the first press conference. Tyson owns him and they both know it. Fury will really get in his head during the build and will beat him easier this time. Wilder can't adapt either.
It'll be interesting. DW has always been cringeworthy anyway. He knocked out a mascot because he didn't think there was a person inside of it; he uttered the immortal words "I'm part human and part hybrid." He beat up Charlie Zelenoff. He strangled a hooker. He's repeatedly talked about how he wants to kill somebody in the ring. He whispers and talks as if what he says has great gravity but it's confused waffle. He's not a good talker nor is he a smart bloke.
Maybe just let him talk? Let him spout off. Nobody can make Deontay Wilder sound more stupid than the man himself. Everything he says now will be ridiculed.
That doesn't mean he isn't dangerous. I'd be wary of treating him like he can't win. He doesn't have anything to lose. He was trying to get behind his jab a little to start with in part 2 and was being "patient." Maybe he figures he has to come out full spaz playground windmill from the off? The first two fights have been weird, unusual affairs. I don't see how the third will break from that. Something strange will go down. I'm quite looking forward to it, really.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 14:52
by Autobarn
I see it as like PAC v Morales 3. Short, exciting. The loser will get a few really good shots in, gamble, get overwhelmed by someone who already swept him away.
Not the fight we all want but could be good to see Tyson continue to develop his size and strength, how he uses it on an opponent. Tyson was a little critical of his last performance. I get the impression maybe they were working on his punch repertoire a little bit. Maybe we’ll see more quality single shots, with more weight behind them. I did see him throw a counter right uppercut after making Wilder miss, at one point and that looked a useful punch.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 16:18
by Spiker
The Cronk Tommy Hearns style left jab was prevalent as well from Fury a couple of times like a whip in wilders face, Fury could finish Wilder with a few of them power jabs
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 16:23
by margaret thatcher
Fury rocked Wilder in the first fight, there were glimpses he could do what he did in the rematch but he wasn't nearly aggressive enough. Plenty of people noticed this I think and it's what Roach had wanted, but I don't think we expected Tyson to genuinely go for that when he'd mostly become a fiddle artist over the last several years
Now he knows what works best
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 16:57
by Autobarn
Spiker wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 16:18
The Cronk Tommy Hearns style left jab was prevalent as well from Fury a couple of times like a whip in wilders face, Fury could finish Wilder with a few of them power jabs
Yes a very hard, heavy jab smack in the face. I liked it.
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 16:59
by chinarich
I think that Fury, after more time with his new trainer and developing this style will win in even more dominant fashion. I see Wilder just coming out and gambling on winning early because if he doesn’t try that he will get pushed back and dominated once again...
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 17:23
by bigjack
Matt W wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 08:02
This is going to be painful for Wilder from the first press conference. Tyson owns him and they both know it. Fury will really get in his head during the build and will beat him easier this time. Wilder can't adapt either.
Agreed,tyson will break him well before the first bell
Matt W wrote: ↑04 Mar 2020, 08:02
This is going to be painful for Wilder from the first press conference. Tyson owns him and they both know it. Fury will really get in his head during the build and will beat him easier this time. Wilder can't adapt either.
He whispers and talks as if what he says has great gravity but it's confused waffle.
absolutely spot on
Re: Fury v Wilder 3 - July 18th 2020
Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 19:06
by Autobarn
Parts of Fury v Wilder 2 reminded me of the last round of Froch v Taylor. One guy just raining down in another. (Was Froch v Taylor the last time a Brit scored a KO in America, by the way?)
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Wilder become a disturbed and incomprehensible figure like Taylor has become, especially if he loses in humiliating fashion.
absolutely spot on
