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Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 06:50

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 00:41 For the 2nd fight of his career he weighed in at 180, when he was only 16 years old, and he didn't look super fat or anything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70EGvI0qZo

So he might be cutting quite a bit to get to 168. A move to 175 is probably in his future.

He is with PBC and they have not many LHWs. Many boxers came a bit overveight during this covid times ive noticed that

Was this a voluntary?

Does PBC even have a lot of fights for him at 168? Aren't Jacobs, Smith, and BJS all on DAZN now? Plant is the only big fight they can make for him. God I hope they don't get the idea that fight should be a PPV.

At 175 he could fight Browne or Pascal or Jack at the very least.

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 12:42 Does PBC even have a lot of fights for him at 168? Aren't Jacobs, Smith, and BJS all on DAZN now? Plant is the only big fight they can make for him. God I hope they don't get the idea that fight should be a PPV.

At 175 he could fight Browne or Pascal or Jack at the very least.

Hmm true

Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 12:49

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 12:42 Does PBC even have a lot of fights for him at 168? Aren't Jacobs, Smith, and BJS all on DAZN now? Plant is the only big fight they can make for him. God I hope they don't get the idea that fight should be a PPV.

At 175 he could fight Browne or Pascal or Jack at the very least.

Hmm true

DAZN works with PBC fighters regularly.

Matchroom and Haymon are on good terms.

If that's the case I'd love to see Benavidez vs. BJS. But I'm not holding my breath.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 14:10

Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 12:49

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 12:42 Does PBC even have a lot of fights for him at 168? Aren't Jacobs, Smith, and BJS all on DAZN now? Plant is the only big fight they can make for him. God I hope they don't get the idea that fight should be a PPV.

At 175 he could fight Browne or Pascal or Jack at the very least.

Hmm true

DAZN works with PBC fighters regularly.

Matchroom and Haymon are on good terms.

Benavidez - Smith or Benavidez - Ryder is more interesting to me :)

This fight is tonight ah?

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 15:09 This fight is tonight ah?

Yaas

Full Card (SHO, 9:00 pm ET)

Vacant WBC World Super Middleweight Championship - Title remains vacant if Benavidez wins
David Benavidez (22-0, 19 KOs) vs. Roamer Alexis Angulo (26-1, 22 KOs)

Interim WBA World Lightweight Championship
Rolando Romero (11-0, 10 KOs) vs. Jackson Marinez (19-0, 7 KOs)

10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Otto Wallin (20-1, 13 KOs) vs. Travis Kauffman (32-3, 23 KOs)

Otto Wallin vs Travis Kauffman to open up the show. Surprised this is the opener. Seems like a more significant bout than the Co-Feature, but whatever.

Kauffman claims he'll retire if he loses 2 in a row, which would be the case if he loses tonight. Wallin of course gave Tyson Fury a pretty good scrap a while back.

Decent bout between fringe contenders. Keeps the winner in the Top 20 somewhere.

Kauffman landing some tentative body shots. Wallin landing some jabs. No real big shots in that 1st round. I thought Wallin edged it though, as he mixed in a few body shots as well with his jab.

1-0 Wallin

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:19 Decent bout between fringe contenders. Keeps the winner in the Top 20 somewhere.

Well, it wouldn't 'keep' Trav top 20 because he's nowhere near that. Prob barely top 100.

Neither of these guys are even close to top 20. Wallin might be borderline top 50. Kauffman is a journeyman. This is really low level stuff and would never been on Showtime Championship Boxing a decade ago.

At least Romero and Marinez are good undefeated prospects and that fight would have made a good ShoBox main event.

Wallin is top 50 easy, don't overestimate the division's depth, agree though, that other fight is better for sure

Wallin pretty much dominates the fight. Outjabs Kauffman throughout the bout. Lands more and more body shots. Kauffman looking noticeably fatigued, and toward the end appeared to have injured his shoulder. Or left arm in some sorta way, and was stopped shortly thereafter.

TKO 5 Otto Wallin

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:38 Neither of these guys are even close to top 20. Wallin might be borderline top 50. Kauffman is a journeyman. This is really low level stuff and would never been on Showtime Championship Boxing a decade ago.

At least Romero and Marinez are good undefeated prospects and that fight would have made a good ShoBox main event.

I mean Wallin did better against Tyson Fury than Wilder did last time out

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:39 Wallin is top 50 easy, don't overestimate the division's depth, agree though, that other fight is better for sure

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. He's never beaten anyone even remotely decent.

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:45

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:39 Wallin is top 50 easy, don't overestimate the division's depth, agree though, that other fight is better for sure

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. He's never beaten anyone even remotely decent.

He gave the clear #1 guy one of his toughest in years, that is more impressive than accumulating wins over hand picked 3rd and 4th rate opposition to just get some ranking on attrition

Go check the rankings, it becomes an absolute sh!thole that far down, he's easily top 50 bruh

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:45

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:39 Wallin is top 50 easy, don't overestimate the division's depth, agree though, that other fight is better for sure

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. He's never beaten anyone even remotely decent.

Surely giving the World Heavyweight Champion a respectable challenge is worth something. He cut him up, and took a couple rounds from him. Maybe 3. Certainly 2.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:46

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:45

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:39 Wallin is top 50 easy, don't overestimate the division's depth, agree though, that other fight is better for sure

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. He's never beaten anyone even remotely decent.

Surely giving the World Heavyweight Champion a respectable challenge is worth something. He cut him up, and took a couple rounds from him. Maybe 3. Certainly 2.

up to 4 rounds and cut him and then hurt him the last round. These days that type of fight vs the #1 guy makes you a top 50 hw easy. Way more significant than say beating some #60 dudes (who have only beeat #90 dude) that will push your ranking up

Thankfully they are also showing Romero vs Marinez

I remember seeing a clip of Rolly bloodying and ragdolling King Ry Ry in sparring, let's see what he brings here

Marinez a lot faster and more fluid, Rolly looking for big shots

Rolly might get that bomb in eventually but he's being too obvious with it. Needs to feint more, jab more, be more subtle in setting it up

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:48

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:46

jujigatame wrote: ↑15 Aug 2020, 21:45

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. He's never beaten anyone even remotely decent.

Surely giving the World Heavyweight Champion a respectable challenge is worth something. He cut him up, and took a couple rounds from him. Maybe 3. Certainly 2.

up to 4 rounds and cut him and then hurt him the last round. These days that type of fight vs the #1 guy makes you a top 50 hw easy. Way more significant than say beating some #60 dudes (who have only beeat #90 dude) that will push your ranking up

I dunno I hesitate to give someone too much credit for a clear loss. Cuts are generally freak occurrences and I think that fight flattered Wallin quite a bit.