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Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 09 Jul 2020, 10:13
by Deserter
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 20:33
Deserter wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 09:18

Even by Eubank's standards that is a quite remarkable stretching of the truth. The idea that him fighting in front a few hundred people in Dubai Tennis Stadium over 20 years ago somehow paved the way for AJ's mega-deal in Saudi is absolutely laughable.
πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬ EGYPT 96, in front of the Sheikhs promoting his own show
All you're doing is re-enforcing my point. His presence did absolutely nothing to pave the way for boxing in the region in any way, shape or form, let alone help set the scene for AJ's deal. I can tell you categorically that his flop in Dubai ensured the opposite, as promoters realized it wasn't a viable market.

By the way, the ruling Sheikhs are in the Gulf, not in Egypt, so you're just highlighting your lack of knowledge of the region.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 10 Jul 2020, 23:40
by coghaugen11

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 09:53
by My Name Is Earl
Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 15:08
by Coco
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 17:44
by coghaugen11
Think it was eight fights in 12 months, starting in London against Amaral and was supposed to take in Seiller in Paris, Malinga in South Africa, Wharton at Elland Road, Close in Belfast again, Nardiello in Rome, Benn again at Wembley and ending with Toney in July 95.

Nothing went to plan.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 18:35
by Noxy
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
10 in a year, straight up? Fair play to him. No-one does that.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 18:41
by margaret thatcher
Chris never did either

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 18:43
by coghaugen11
Noxy wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 18:35
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
10 in a year, straight up? Fair play to him. No-one does that.
Eight in 12 months. Eubank was never out of the gym, ever.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 18:57
by mickey1975
And he no intention of coming to Leeds! This guy is crackers!

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 19:10
by coghaugen11

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 19:29
by Coco
Noxy wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 18:35
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
10 in a year, straight up? Fair play to him. No-one does that.
Losing to Collins ruined it! It was supposed to be a world tour! I imagine not fulfilling the deal had an impact on the money but I don't know exactly by how.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 13:19
by My Name Is Earl
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 18:43
Noxy wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 18:35
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08

10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
10 in a year, straight up? Fair play to him. No-one does that.
Eight in 12 months. Eubank was never out of the gym, ever.
That was it. Just the very nature of the contract told us the route Eubank intended to take. So, a trailblazer
on that front.

I think the next to get a similar deal was Audley with the bbc. And the rest is history. :oops:

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 22:54
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 19:29
Noxy wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 18:35
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08

10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
10 in a year, straight up? Fair play to him. No-one does that.
Losing to Collins ruined it! It was supposed to be a world tour! I imagine not fulfilling the deal had an impact on the money but I don't know exactly by how.
Yeah Eubank had to keep winning but still made Β£600,000 in each of the two fights between the two Collins fights, that both lasted 30 seconds, in 1995.

Also it was Ray Close failing a brain scan why the Collins fight happened in the first place, Eubank-Close III was set for two weeks before Benn-McClellan in Belfast but got cancelled because of the aforementioned. Hearn quickly made Eubank-Collins (Rep of Ireland) set for St Paddy's Weekend for five weeks after the original Close mandatory date.

Eubank in essence then had a whole wasted camp, then doubled up for Collins fight. With no respite since after Berlin a year before. Madness. And he took in South Africa during that too, high altitude down under.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 16 Jul 2020, 04:38
by gp.
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2020, 22:10
I didn't have the ego for Sin City when I was boxing. Sun City most certainly, being the soil of my idol Mandela - truth, integrity, dignity. Not ego. Bringing money and interest to South Africa. Any way I can help, I'm going to.
That doesn't sound like Eubank at all. Are you sure he didn't say "the soil of Mandela, whose idol I was"?

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2020, 22:10
I suggested part of the Berlin Wall be donated to Mandela in South Africa, and later that year it was.
Yeah that is more like him.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 26 Apr 2021, 09:16
by coghaugen11

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 01:48
by bennie
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman

He lost the first one to an obscure Brazilian but they gave him the verdict.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 03:41
by Coco
bennie wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 01:48
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman

He lost the first one to an obscure Brazilian but they gave him the verdict.
And don't forget Dan Schommer!

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 03:50
by Coco
I remember BN rubbishing the fight beforehand, a headline of Schommer Holiday rings a bell!

Who could have known Eubank would have been so bad that night.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 05:55
by coghaugen11
Schommer beat him by seven rounds. Funny, Eubank refuses to admit to himself that it was due to his obscene weight-making (this time at altitude) over there and instead portrays Schommer as a boxing super-master.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 19:11
by THEBUTCH
It was Schommer's night. Some nights, everything you do works and this was that night for Schommer :bag:

Shame the judges fouled up :doh:

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 05:33
by bennie
Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 03:50 I remember BN rubbishing the fight beforehand, a headline of Schommer Holiday rings a bell!

Who could have known Eubank would have been so bad that night.

Sounds like one of Harry Mullan's rants. I remember him slagging off the Richie Woodhall-Glenn Catley match in 1998, labelling it a disgrace and that Catley had absolutely no chance. Harry was learning the hard way that the game had changed by the 1990s and all the old boxing commandments were dead in the water.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 09 May 2021, 17:32
by coghaugen11
The greats dared to be great. They absorbed critique, pain, suffering and rather than stop or cower away in a corner they stood tall and carried on until they actually got respect and could walk away with their head high and have no need or reason or ego to come back for a second taste.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 09 May 2021, 17:36
by coghaugen11
bennie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021, 05:33
Coco wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 03:50 I remember BN rubbishing the fight beforehand, a headline of Schommer Holiday rings a bell!

Who could have known Eubank would have been so bad that night.

Sounds like one of Harry Mullan's rants. I remember him slagging off the Richie Woodhall-Glenn Catley match in 1998, labelling it a disgrace and that Catley had absolutely no chance. Harry was learning the hard way that the game had changed by the 1990s and all the old boxing commandments were dead in the water.
And Catley beat Woodhall. Clearly.

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 09 May 2021, 20:28
by coghaugen11
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 23:40
Saunders has spent more time on the piss in Spain than in training

Contenders end up with bruises on their faces

Re: Chris explains why he didn't fight in Vegas

Posted: 11 May 2021, 01:58
by Offthehook
Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 15:08
My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑14 Jul 2020, 09:53 Wasn't Eubank the first to sign a lucrative long term fight contract ( 10 fights i think) with a major broadcaster?

He took stick for it as some of the opponents were erm...less than stellar. That's why he was able to fight every two
or three months.

So revolutionary on that front but not Saudi.
10 fights, 10 million all in one year!
Big money in the early eighties. Was really the first SKY frontman
Exactly. He literally had people elevated into the rankings. When you’re told you can fight anyone for that money it’s obvious you’re going to not fight the best.