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marvelous marv wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 17:51 Roy's chin was very bad at the end of his career. I see him getting dropped with a jab.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 22:28 I am probably the biggest Roy Jones fan on this site. Lets say I recieved a call from him tomorrow and he would ask me to give him a thousand bucks, I would do so hesitantly since I am a cheap bastard but id do it.

This being said I think that this fight is all wrong for Roy Jones, Mike Tyson isnt out for an exhibition, he is trying to make a mini comeback, next up will be a ranked contender. Mike is going to knock Roy Jones out.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 14:08 Nobody ever accused either of these guys of being shrewd businessmen. Going to run this farce up against a canelo fight. Lol

gregregegg wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 01:18

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 14:08 Nobody ever accused either of these guys of being shrewd businessmen. Going to run this farce up against a canelo fight. Lol

Though canelo was aiming october this year?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 22:37

marvelous marv wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 17:51 Roy's chin was very bad at the end of his career. I see him getting dropped with a jab.

The end of his career was recent, Mike's was over a decade. Roy ever lose to someone like McBride? Admittedly size and power is an issue, but I think it will be shocking how bad Mike will look.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:09 Anyone that saw Mike’s last two pro fights against journeymen like Williams and McBride, as well as his 2006 exhibition bout against Sanders, will surely appreciate the fact that Tyson is utterly shot.

Looking great during a ten second or so video, as well as shifting a bit of excess timber, is utterly meaningless, because they’re not barometers anyone should use to determine whether or not he’s in fighting shape.

Tyson has spent a great deal of time over the last fifteen years yo-yoing in weight and also being a couch potato because he simply didn’t want to train or watch his diet (his words). And there’s nothing wrong with that, due to the fact he was a wealthy middle-aged man.

All we know from watching those social media videos is that Tyson knows how to execute some of the athletic moves he learned when he was 12 years of age. Still, it’s important to note that no one was punching back.

Tyson has always been a “rose”, because they look beautiful to the naked eye, but they’re cosmetic and can wilt under intense heat and pressure.

He’s never been able to overcome “a thorn”, which is less impressive to look at but remains sharp and on point under practically any harsh conditions.

And Mike’s mental fragility isn’t going to change with age, because it’s part of his personality.

Any fighter that punches him back and isn’t scared of him, will always do well… even the glass-jawed Jones Jr. (who’s always kept himself in shape), will have no problem dealing with the 54-year-old “fearsome” version of Tyson.

The exhibition between Jones Jr. and Tyson will be an intriguing yet unimpressive, circus-style spectacle that will only serve to satisfy curiosity rather than being a legitimate exciting sporting event between two prime conditioned athletes.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:29Danny Williams was not a journeyman when he fought Tyson.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:42

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:29Danny Williams was not a journeyman when he fought Tyson.

Danny Williams was merely a British domestic level fighter that had tasted defeat in two of his previous six bouts immediately preceding the Tyson upset.

And let’s face it, he wasn’t even considered the best fighter in England, let alone the UK, when he fought Mike.

He’d already tasted defeat to unheralded fighters, such as Sinan Samil Sam, Julius Francis and Michael Sprott.

And Julius Francis was subsequently stopped inside two rounds by Mike Tyson, only eight months after he’d beaten Danny Williams.

To give my comments even more justification, Danny Williams tasted defeat in 25 of the 48 bouts he participated in after the Tyson upset.

At some point in time during their careers, all journeymen have very few losses on their records. It doesn’t mean they were anything but journeymen calibre fighters when they only had a few defeats on their resume.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:42

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:29Danny Williams was not a journeyman when he fought Tyson.

Danny Williams was merely a British domestic level fighter that had tasted defeat in two of his previous six bouts immediately preceding the Tyson upset.

And let’s face it, he wasn’t even considered the best fighter in England, let alone the UK, when he fought Mike.

He’d already tasted defeat to unheralded fighters, such as Sinan Samil Sam, Julius Francis and Michael Sprott.

And Julius Francis was subsequently stopped inside two rounds by Mike Tyson, only eight months after he’d beaten Danny Williams.

To give my comments even more justification, Danny Williams tasted defeat in 25 of the 48 bouts he participated in after the Tyson upset.

At some point in time during their careers, all journeymen have very few losses on their records. It doesn’t mean they were anything but journeymen calibre fighters when they only had a few defeats on their resume.

'Merely a british domestic level fighter' how disrespectful that comment is,losing 2 british title and 1 european title fights does not make Williams a journeyman

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 16:13 They both need the money so why not

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:55

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 03:42
Danny Williams was merely a British domestic level fighter that had tasted defeat in two of his previous six bouts immediately preceding the Tyson upset.

And let’s face it, he wasn’t even considered the best fighter in England, let alone the UK, when he fought Mike.

He’d already tasted defeat to unheralded fighters, such as Sinan Samil Sam, Julius Francis and Michael Sprott.

And Julius Francis was subsequently stopped inside two rounds by Mike Tyson, only eight months after he’d beaten Danny Williams.

To give my comments even more justification, Danny Williams tasted defeat in 25 of the 48 bouts he participated in after the Tyson upset.

At some point in time during their careers, all journeymen have very few losses on their records. It doesn’t mean they were anything but journeymen calibre fighters when they only had a few defeats on their resume.

'Merely a british domestic level fighter' how disrespectful that comment is,losing 2 british title and 1 european title fights does not make Williams a journeyman

From 2004 until 2009, there wasn’t a single British heavyweight fighter ranked amongst the top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

Stating a fact is not disrespectful. There has occasionally been droughts in regards to genuine world-rated British heavyweight fighters.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:03Journeymen don't win fights with one arm.We must have a difference of opinion on what a boxing journeyman is,he is now in my eyes,but wasn't when he ko'd Tyson

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:03Journeymen don't win fights with one arm.We must have a difference of opinion on what a boxing journeyman is,he is now in my eyes,but wasn't when he ko'd Tyson

Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:03Journeymen don't win fights with one arm.We must have a difference of opinion on what a boxing journeyman is,he is now in my eyes,but wasn't when he ko'd Tyson

Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:20

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:03Journeymen don't win fights with one arm.We must have a difference of opinion on what a boxing journeyman is,he is now in my eyes,but wasn't when he ko'd Tyson

Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

Williams fights were shown live on national tv as the headline fight,not something you'd expect to see for a journeyman

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:26

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:20

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16
Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

Williams fights were shown live on national tv as the headline fight,not something you'd expect to see for a journeyman

Danny Williams fights were always entertaining. Apart from Tyson, he kept losing against fighters that were above British domestic level. And for the vast majority of his career, he wasn't even the best fighter in England, let alone the UK.

This isn't coming from a person basing their stance purely on hindisght alone.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:25

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:03Journeymen don't win fights with one arm.We must have a difference of opinion on what a boxing journeyman is,he is now in my eyes,but wasn't when he ko'd Tyson

Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

That's because Americans showed Brtitish heavies very little respect,they thought he was just another british knock over job...

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:28He had 1 european title loss prior to the tyson fight,wouldn't describe that as often losing would you ?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:29

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:25

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jul 2020, 04:16
Danny Williams’ effort against Mark Potter was admittedly admirable, but let’s not pretend he beat someone that was considered a decent fighter.

Beating a fighter whose career highlight was capturing a BBBofC southern area title does not necessarily mean you can’t be considered journeyman calibre.

Even the American commentators referred to Williams as merely being a journeyman calibre fighter when he faced Tyson.

That's because Americans showed Brtitish heavies very little respect,they thought he was just another british knock over job...

There wasn't a single British fighter ranked amongst the top-ten on the world scene from 2004 until 2009.

British heavyweights weren't any good during that timeframe.

And Danny Williams victory over Tyson was simply a flash in the pan. He never achieved anything of note after scoring that shock upset.

The reason for that is obvious, it was because he was never above British domestic level.

clearly you have no clue what you are talking about,lets leave it shall we

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 14:08 Nobody ever accused either of these guys of being shrewd businessmen. Going to run this farce up against a canelo fight. Lol

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 22:37

marvelous marv wrote: ↑23 Jul 2020, 17:51 Roy's chin was very bad at the end of his career. I see him getting dropped with a jab.

The end of his career was recent, Mike's was over a decade. Roy ever lose to someone like McBride? Admittedly size and power is an issue, but I think it will be shocking how bad Mike will look.