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Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:25
by DrDuke
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:16
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:25
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:16
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Got ya
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:26
by gilgamesh
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:16
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
He said Nunn was his best win.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:27
by DrDuke
gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:26
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:18
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
He said Nunn was his best win.
Yes, but later he claimed that Holyfield was the best boxer Toney faced instead of Roy.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:32
by Onetimeonly
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:16
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 17:05
by pound per pound
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 02:19
DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Sep 2020, 16:51
Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.
I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.
Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 18:24
by Onetimeonly
pound per pound wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 17:05
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 02:19
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
That is arguable, evander is clearly more accomplished.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 04:18
by DrDuke
pound per pound wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 17:05
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 02:19
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
Holyfield's resume had more big names.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 07:01
by Autobarn
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 06:49
Autobarn wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 06:21
Great points. Nothing decisive and Toney was the Canelo of the ‘90s, receiving the benefit of the doubt in razor thin or competitive fights.
Well, not always. I'd say, Toney edged in both Griffin fights, but both were scored against him.
Definitely, once his bubblehad burst, the close decisions could go against him.
He did struggle vs Griffin nonetheless, his feet often out of position and stumbling badly after throwing punches. Although he arguably landed cleaner punches, he did not look good in a close pair of fights.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 03 Oct 2020, 14:42
by pound per pound
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Sep 2020, 22:23
Nunn. Always wished there was a rematch.
The first one was a classic why wasn’t there a Re-match? I think Nunn with an adjustment could have taken it.
Re: James Toney's best win
Posted: 29 Oct 2020, 19:37
by pound per pound
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Sep 2020, 22:23
Nunn. Always wished there was a rematch.
Nunn would have won the re-match, Although these come from behind Ko's are fun to watch Nunn was clearly the better boxer
