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Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 08:42
by Controversial
Does it really matter, some refs might have called it, that ref didn't. He clearly wasn't hurt regardless, even if it were a genuine KD it doesn't take away from the fact that he had one of the best chins in HW history. Anyone can be knocked down if hit right.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 10:38
by klompton
Woller wrote: ↑21 Oct 2020, 15:33
God has spoken.
I wouldnt expect a Dane who worships the legendary skills of Tom Bogs and Chris Christensen to understand anything about boxing.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 12:20
by Woller
I dont think that Tom Bogs was that bad - He was ranked no. four Middleweight at one time.
At least I did not embarrass myself by writing:" Robbed? Lol. Less that half the fight survives and all of that is edited by the BBC focusing on Charnley best moments. Brown dominated almost the entire fight. Nothing controversial about that decision"
Because you dont have the full fight, it does not mean that it does not exist.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 12:45
by klompton
When your record is built on gift decisions in your hometown that the rest of the world cant see its pretty easy to get rated.
As for Brown-Charnley if you wish to believe Charnley was robbed at home be my guest but that wont change the facts nor will it change the fact that I wont be lectured on boxing films by a hobbyist who is constantly mystified by what exists of fighters from his own country filmed during his lifetime much less the rest of the world. Continue on trading youtube caps in blissful ignorance and leave the real collecting to the pros. Or I suppose we could always refer to your own list if youd like to pretend you have it? No? Didnt think so. I guess someone is still stinging that I didnt cave to your extortion attempts all of those years ago. Pathetic.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 13:46
by Woller
I have never for a second said that I had Charnley winning that fight. I see it as very close for Brown. Way to close for comfort in England with an English scoring referee. I say it is close, but I have to call the third round a draw, as it is missing in my copy.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 14:17
by klompton
I bet it is.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 14:27
by Woller
I wrote :"God has spoken"
I am sorry I wrote that - I take it back.
Only god can be perfect.
No more comments from me.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 18:52
by pound per pound
Jaywheel wrote: ↑08 Oct 2020, 16:28
Knees bent, clearly not down in both instances from what I see.
By rules if your glove touches the mat, you are down.
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 11 Feb 2021, 19:04
by margaret thatcher
the first one is debatable , the second one obviously no kd
if i had to say, id say his glove doesnt touch down in the first but it's hard to tell with that quality
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 12 Feb 2021, 13:43
by AntonioMartin
The first one you can argue, the second one..well he didn't go to the floor on that one so its arguable as well but I'd say he didnt go down....
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 12 Feb 2021, 13:43
by AntonioMartin
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 19:04
the first one is debatable , the second one obviously no kd
if i had to say, id say his glove doesnt touch down in the first but it's hard to tell with that quality
x2
Re: Has George Chuvalo really been never down?
Posted: 12 Feb 2021, 13:49
by AntonioMartin
Woller wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 12:20
I dont think that Tom Bogs was that bad - He was ranked no. four Middleweight at one time.
At least I did not embarrass myself by writing:" Robbed? Lol. Less that half the fight survives and all of that is edited by the BBC focusing on Charnley best moments. Brown dominated almost the entire fight. Nothing controversial about that decision"
Because you dont have the full fight, it does not mean that it does not exist.
From Wikipedia, Bogs was 53-0-1 to start his career! I think the move down to Middleweight hurt him. Im not saying he'd been a world champion for sure at Light Heavyweight because Bob Foster was the man there but who knows, wait a couple of years to the Victor Galindez era, and he might have been!