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stevec@france wrote: ↑25 Nov 2020, 12:49 either of these would stop wilder

Very likely so.

I slightly lean towards Daniel, but Joyce is one tough fighter. Dubois better be ready to fight the distance, because I don't see him knocking Joyce out unless it's a controversial stoppage by the referee without Joyce going down. Joyce reminds me of a George Foreman and Dubois reminds me of a Riddick Bowe. If Dubois stays poised and doesn't over-extend himself, he should come out with a distance victory. But if he goes for a knockout and wears himself out trying to achieve it, he might possibly run out of gas and get himself knocked out in the process.

Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 12:24

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

Yes, true fights like these are quite rare.

Credit to both men, but especially Daniel Dubois.

I love his attitude, truly fearless.

I certainly wouldnt bet on it cause of Dubois' power and ram rod jab.

But my gut feeling is this is too early for Dubois and Joyce stops him late. Joyce has always been underrated but he has a brilliant stamina and workrate.

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑25 Nov 2020, 18:04 I slightly lean towards Daniel, but Joyce is one tough fighter. Dubois better be ready to fight the distance, because I don't see him knocking Joyce out unless it's a controversial stoppage by the referee without Joyce going down. Joyce reminds me of a George Foreman and Dubois reminds me of a Riddick Bowe. If Dubois stays poised and doesn't over-extend himself, he should come out with a distance victory. But if he goes for a knockout and wears himself out trying to achieve it, he might possibly run out of gas and get himself knocked out in the process.

I'd say dubois is more like, hmmm, who is he like. Too quick for bruno, not as stiff, but nowhere near the skills of Bowe.

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

SHUT THE F$CK UP !!! Joyce has no much time left in his career ... Now or never

And Doubious Little to Lose and everything to gain .

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

These are the kind of fights most missed.

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 12:55 I certainly wouldnt bet on it cause of Dubois' power and ram rod jab.

But my gut feeling is this is too early for Dubois and Joyce stops him late. Joyce has always been underrated but he has a brilliant stamina and workrate.

Im also leaning to Joyce late ko so had a look on Betfair and they have Joyce ko rounds 7-12 at 9-1 ! My eyes nearly popped out of my head, is it just me that thinks that is amazing value?

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:45

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 12:55 I certainly wouldnt bet on it cause of Dubois' power and ram rod jab.

But my gut feeling is this is too early for Dubois and Joyce stops him late. Joyce has always been underrated but he has a brilliant stamina and workrate.

Im also leaning to Joyce late ko so had a look on Betfair and they have Joyce ko rounds 7-12 at 9-1 ! My eyes nearly popped out of my head, is it just me that thinks that is amazing value?

Great value.

I got 3-1 for a Joyce win. I also put a wee bit on a draw at 25-1.

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:45

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 12:55 I certainly wouldnt bet on it cause of Dubois' power and ram rod jab.

But my gut feeling is this is too early for Dubois and Joyce stops him late. Joyce has always been underrated but he has a brilliant stamina and workrate.

Im also leaning to Joyce late ko so had a look on Betfair and they have Joyce ko rounds 7-12 at 9-1 ! My eyes nearly popped out of my head, is it just me that thinks that is amazing value?

I said the same thing...

joshj909 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2020, 13:26 Joyce to win in rounds 7-12 is 9/1. I'm tempted by those odds. Is he being heavily overlooked here?

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:53

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:45

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 12:55 I certainly wouldnt bet on it cause of Dubois' power and ram rod jab.

But my gut feeling is this is too early for Dubois and Joyce stops him late. Joyce has always been underrated but he has a brilliant stamina and workrate.

Im also leaning to Joyce late ko so had a look on Betfair and they have Joyce ko rounds 7-12 at 9-1 ! My eyes nearly popped out of my head, is it just me that thinks that is amazing value?

I said the same thing...

joshj909 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2020, 13:26 Joyce to win in rounds 7-12 is 9/1. I'm tempted by those odds. Is he being heavily overlooked here?

I’m proper tempted! Would love to get one one over the bookies again with Joyce, they gave me 16-1 for a 1st round win when he boxed that Palmer fella, couldn’t believe it.

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 18:15

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:53

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:45
Im also leaning to Joyce late ko so had a look on Betfair and they have Joyce ko rounds 7-12 at 9-1 ! My eyes nearly popped out of my head, is it just me that thinks that is amazing value?

I said the same thing...

joshj909 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2020, 13:26 Joyce to win in rounds 7-12 is 9/1. I'm tempted by those odds. Is he being heavily overlooked here?

I’m proper tempted! Would love to get one one over the bookies again with Joyce, they gave me 16-1 for a 1st round win when he boxed that Palmer fella, couldn’t believe it.

In my eyes a 7-12 stoppage for Joyce is the most likely thing to happen which is why I'm not betting on it, as it never happens the way I foresee it

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 18:19

littlepug wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 18:15

joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 17:53

I said the same thing...

I’m proper tempted! Would love to get one one over the bookies again with Joyce, they gave me 16-1 for a 1st round win when he boxed that Palmer fella, couldn’t believe it.

In my eyes a 7-12 stoppage for Joyce is the most likely thing to happen which is why I'm not betting on it, as it never happens the way I foresee it

lol same here, a few good wins aside I’m mostly terrible at picking fight results when betting on them.

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

Amen....

Weigh in

Dubois 112kg, Joyce 116kg are my predictions.

siablo14 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 20:48

pound per pound wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 09:55 Boxing needs more fight like this. Two guys on the rise, One will caterpult himself into the top ten.

Amen....

Praise be.

Referee: Ian John Lewis

Judges: John Latham | Victor Loughlin | Mark Lyson

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 07:05 Dubois 112kg, Joyce 116kg are my predictions.

111kg and 117kg.

Weigh-In Report

Dubois (15-0, 14KOs) clocked in at a ripped and ready 244.4 pounds for his second fight since the pandemic. Joyce (11-0, 10KOs) hit the scale at a stacked 258.9 pounds, in line with his conditioning for a 12-round win over former title challenger Bryant Jennings last July.

Catterall weighed 143.2 pounds for his first fight in just over a year, while waiting out a due title shot versus unified 140-pound titlist Josh Taylor. Houya checked in at 141.6 pound.

Sheeraz hit the scale at a shredded 153.6 pounds gracing his 6’1” frame. Pitto—a 33-year old journeyman from Barcelona, Spain by way of Buenos Aires, Argentina?entered at a fighting fit 152.6 pounds.

David Adeleye (London, England; 3-0, 3KOs), 219 ¼ lbs. vs. Danny Whitaker (Yorkshire, England; 4-1, 0KOs), 260 lbs.—8 rds, heavyweight

Jack Massey (Derbyshire, England; 16-1, 8KOs), 201.4 lbs. vs. Mohammed Ali Bayat Farid (Dubai, UAE; 16-1-1, 16KOs) 200.4 lbs.—8 rds, cruiserweight

Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Joyce Predictions - Fury, Haye, Hatton, Frampton, More

AT LAST, Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Joyce is finally happening. It is a fight that has captured the public imagination and it goes down this Saturday night live on BT Sport 1 HD from 7.30pm.

Below are a selection of prediction quotes from some of the biggest names in the sport, and a few famous fans for good measure.

FIGHT PREDICTIONS

TYSON FURY
I want to be there for that. I want to be the commentary man for that fight. That’s a fight I do not want to miss. Both good fighters. Joe’s a big strong unit, Juggernaut, get in the way he’ll run you over. Daniel’s big and strong and youthful, fresh. They’re both good fighters and it’ll come down to who wants it more on the night. They’re both capable of winning, they’re both capable of pulling victories out and they’re both capable of knocking the other person out. It’s a fight you don’t want to miss. Watch it live and exclusive on BT Sport.

DAVID HAYE
I can see it going both ways. I can see Dubois being able to stop Joyce if it’s an early shootout. But, if it’s not an early shootout and it becomes a boxing match, I believe that works in Joe Joyce’s favour. So I’m going to go with the man I know, the man I’ve seen take some beatings and soak it up, I’m going to go with Joe Joyce by points decision or late stoppage.

JOHN FURY
I’m a little bit worried about whether it’s too early for Daniel Dubois. Joe Joyce is a big, strong seasoned man. We know he’s got a good engine and he can hold a shot well. It’s a hard one, but for my money it’s a bit too soon for Daniel Dubois.

ANDY LEE
I see it being a shoot out. I think Dubois’ extra speed will give him the edge and I think he’ll win by knockout.

RICKY HATTON
I think most people will lean to Dubois slightly because he’s a man in form. He’s a little bit fresher. Joe’s had a very distinguished amateur career, maybe he has a few more miles on the clock than Daniel. He’s quite versatile Joe. He can do pretty much everything. His style is a little bit in-your-face, though, which might suit Daniel Dubois. I think it’s a 50-50 fight, but Daniel might be a little bit fresher… I think that might just make the difference.

PAULIE MALIGNAGGI
My prediction is an explosive fight. Could go either ways. They’re both big punching guys looking for the big one. I edge towards Dubois at this moment.

RICHIE WOODALL
I think if Daniel Dubois can land a big shot early on it’ll be his contest. If Joe can get through the first 3 or 4 rounds and take Daniel into the later stages… then the tide could turn after 5 or 6 rounds. If I had to put money on it, I’d probably just fancy Daniel to be honest.

LIAM WILLIAMS
I think it’ll be a very good fight. I quite highly favour Dubois, but if Joyce can weather a bit of a storm then I think he’s in with a chance. If you put a gun to my head, I’d have to put my money on Dubois.

NATHAN GORMAN
It’s a real 50-50 fight in my opinion. I think lot of people are writing Joe off, but it’s a lot closer than that. Joyce has got a good amateur pedigree. Daniel on the other hand is a big power puncher, massive backhand. Under six I’ll favour Daniel, over six it’ll be interesting to see what happens.

TOMMY FURY
50-50 in my mind. Obviously Joyce can shift a shot, he’s more experienced coming from the amateurs. He’s had some good fights as a professional. Then you’ve got a young boy Daniel Dubois, British champion on his way up. I know it’s a cliché to say that if it goes long Joyce will win it and if it goes short Daniel will win it but really, I just wish good luck to both men hope they put up a good fight and may the best man win.

CARL FRAMPTON
This ones really interesting. Both guys are punchers. Dubois is technically better than Joe but Joe, even though he looks really unorthodox, he’s got an engine like I’ve never seen before in my life. I was lucky enough to train with him and I’ve never seen a fitter boxer. He’ll want to apply his pressure to Dubois and make him work hard from the start. I think it’s going to be a great fight, Joe’s going to force the pace from the start and he’s going to walk onto a lot of shots so it’s all about how well his chin holds up. The later the fight goes on the more chance that Joe has but I’m going to stay with Dubois on this one. I think Dubois will get to him at some point, probably a stoppage in the middle rounds.

LOU DIBELLA
I love this fight — clash of styles, with the outcome in doubt. Big Joe is physically strong, durable, more experienced, and has reach... but he’s slow. Dubois is more mobile, can be explosive, and has potential out the ying-yang. This is a great domestic brawl. The kid’s more athletic and I’m predicting a mid/late stoppage for Daniel.

ANTHONY OGOGO
Going to be a great fight, two of the biggest prospects in Heavyweight boxing tearing it up, like the good old days. It’s as close to a 50/50 as you can get but I’m slightly leaning towards Joyce as he’s more experienced in big matches, his physical maturity and experience in big fights and competition like the Olympics , etc.

JON PEGG (Top Matchmaker)
I keep changing my mind on this one. I’m going for the Peacock Gym team to tip the balance with their experience and Dubois to get a hard fought stoppage around 7.

KALLE SAUERLAND
I think it’s an excellent 50/50 fight and has the makings to be a classic. Dubois is a phenomenal talent but is this a match-up too early for him? I could not pick a winner as there are too many unknowns but if I had too I would have to pick Joyce because I have seen him in the deep end before. Good luck to both.

LIAM SMITH
I think it’s a top fight between two very good Heavyweights who are both on the up. It’s a good clash of styles. If Dubois has it in the tank, I think he wins, he’s better all round. If he doesn’t, and doesn’t do Joyce in the first few rounds, then Joyce could come on for a late stoppage. But, my pick is Dubois win, 4-6 rounds.

MARK TIBBS
I believe ‘Dynamite’ Dubois is gonna explode on point and extinguish Joe Joyce within six rounds.

TROY WILLIAMSON
A lot of people are writing Joe off, but he's GB's most decorated amateur for a reason. I'm going for JJ win.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 11:48 ANDY LEE
I see it being a shoot out. I think Dubois’ extra speed will give him the edge and I think he’ll win by knockout.

This.

Joyce is a fighter to dictate the pace here. He just can't do otherwise. He'll go for it and will engage with a faster man. When it's about trading punches of such monsters, the most important attributes are speed and chin. Their chins aren't test yet, it's actually a fight to test them. But most likely both are capable of knocking each other out. So, I pick the faster guy to get better of the exchanges.