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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 21:08
by margaret thatcher
Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 21:12
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Dont get the brook hate. He beat porter more cleanly than pbc supermen spence and Thurman
Hed win 3 rounds. Floyd in 2014 took rounds off even against berto
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 06 Dec 2020, 00:10
by bobcatbox
ValMar wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 09:15
120-108, FMJ
Maybe not quite but this is the right idea.
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 06 Dec 2020, 03:41
by bobcatbox
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 16:35
apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 10:51
2014 Brook would've been one top-young-prime welter from the new 147lbs generation to fight FMJ. Better than Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana or Berto.
He isnt better than maidana
Maidana would have knocked his block off if they fought anywhere between 2012-14 for sure. Assuming Brook didn’t get away with egregious holding a la Devon Alexander.
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 08:27
by detamour
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 21:08
Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
Brook, who avoided Vargas, Bradley, Madaina beats Floyd?
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 08:28
by detamour
apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 10:51
2014 Brook would've been one top-young-prime welter from the new 147lbs generation to fight FMJ. Better than Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana or Berto.
Who has brook fought again? He, would have to bring the book of Ezeikel and that still would never help his ass..
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 14:24
by margaret thatcher
detamour wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 08:27
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 21:08
Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
Brook, who avoided Vargas, Bradley, Madaina beats Floyd?
LOL no bruh
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 14:38
by ValMar
bobcatbox wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 00:10
ValMar wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 09:15
120-108, FMJ
Maybe not quite but this is the right idea.
Do you mean KO/TKO, FMJ ?
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 15:42
by bobcatbox
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 14:38
bobcatbox wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 00:10
ValMar wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 09:15
120-108, FMJ
Maybe not quite but this is the right idea.
Do you mean KO/TKO, FMJ ?
I can see Brook getting a round or two. Shutout not crazy though.
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 15:47
by margaret thatcher
Floyd had like 1 shutout card in the last 8-9 years of his career, he usually gave away some rounds, either at the start when getting a look at the opponent or near the end when way ahead. brook is a really skillful boxer but lacking in the tough stuff, i think he'd take some rounds for sure, but ultimately floyd is just so amazingly good , too good
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 16:14
by Jeff_lacy_ko
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 15:47
Floyd had like 1 shutout card in the last 8-9 years of his career, he usually gave away some rounds, either at the start when getting a look at the opponent or near the end when way ahead. brook is a really skillful boxer but lacking in the tough stuff, i think he'd take some rounds for sure, but ultimately floyd is just so amazingly good , too good
No way man brook didnt even beat porter because allegedly unofficial judge said so
Hes never beaten top 10 fighters despite beating his mandatories somehow either
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 16:27
by ValMar
bobcatbox wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 15:42
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 14:38
bobcatbox wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 00:10
Maybe not quite but this is the right idea.
Do you mean KO/TKO, FMJ ?
I can see Brook getting a round or two. Shutout not crazy though.
OK, 119-109..............
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:15
by Enlightened-One
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 20:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 20:06
What’s the majorly?
And besides, the British media (i.e. Sky & Box-Nation) believed that Brook lost the Porter fight.
And regardless as to whether anyone disagrees, it’s an undeniable fact that Brook has never scored a clear-cut decisive victory over any universally regarded top-ten world-rated fighter.
Finally, even if we agree to disagree about the outcome of the Porter bout, can you name a top-ten world-rated fighter (not named Shawn Porter) that Kell Brook has beaten?
This isn’t an emotional discussion, whereby we’re discussing feelings, I only care about the facts.
Bizier was his mandatory. Ibf had him top 10 right?
I wouldnt rate him, but it is an undeniable fact a world sanctioning organization had him in their top 10. Agree?
So you’re basically agreeing with me, because it’s clear that Bizier definitely wasn’t universally regarded as a top-ten world-rated fighter.
We got there in the end and it’s good for these discussions to reach their natural conclusion where we both see eye-to-eye.
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:39
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Im not agreeing
my opinion, though the best opinion, isnt a fact. A fact is a universally recognized sanctioning body rated jo io dan and bizier. So if you are going fact based.....
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:47
by Enlightened-One
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 18:39
Im not agreeing
my opinion, though the best opinion, isnt a fact. A fact is a universally recognized sanctioning body rated jo io dan and bizier. So if you are going fact based.....
What you’ve written doesn’t relate to anything I’ve claimed though, does it?
Christopher Lovejoy was recently rated as a top-15 fighter by the WBA, that doesn’t mean that ESPN, TBRB, The RING, BoxRec, the media in general or anyone from this forums considered him as being a world-rater fighter.
Don’t go quoting the rankings of governing bodies ever again, because that’s just silly and I know for sure you already know this!
Two words: Fres Oquendo!
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:53
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Dont knock Fres bro.
Hasnt been cleanly beaten in 16 years
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 18:57
by Enlightened-One
