2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
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margaret thatcher
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Dont get the brook hate. He beat porter more cleanly than pbc supermen spence and Thurman
Hed win 3 rounds. Floyd in 2014 took rounds off even against berto
Hed win 3 rounds. Floyd in 2014 took rounds off even against berto
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Maidana would have knocked his block off if they fought anywhere between 2012-14 for sure. Assuming Brook didn’t get away with egregious holding a la Devon Alexander.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 16:35He isnt better than maidanaapollo creed wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 10:51 2014 Brook would've been one top-young-prime welter from the new 147lbs generation to fight FMJ. Better than Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana or Berto.![]()
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 21:08 Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
Brook, who avoided Vargas, Bradley, Madaina beats Floyd?
Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Who has brook fought again? He, would have to bring the book of Ezeikel and that still would never help his ass..apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 10:51 2014 Brook would've been one top-young-prime welter from the new 147lbs generation to fight FMJ. Better than Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana or Berto.![]()
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margaret thatcher
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
LOL no bruhdetamour wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 08:27margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 21:08 Brook defo woulda won some rounds but clear decision floyd
Brook, who avoided Vargas, Bradley, Madaina beats Floyd?
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margaret thatcher
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Floyd had like 1 shutout card in the last 8-9 years of his career, he usually gave away some rounds, either at the start when getting a look at the opponent or near the end when way ahead. brook is a really skillful boxer but lacking in the tough stuff, i think he'd take some rounds for sure, but ultimately floyd is just so amazingly good , too good
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
No way man brook didnt even beat porter because allegedly unofficial judge said somargaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 15:47 Floyd had like 1 shutout card in the last 8-9 years of his career, he usually gave away some rounds, either at the start when getting a look at the opponent or near the end when way ahead. brook is a really skillful boxer but lacking in the tough stuff, i think he'd take some rounds for sure, but ultimately floyd is just so amazingly good , too good
Hes never beaten top 10 fighters despite beating his mandatories somehow either
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Enlightened-One
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
So you’re basically agreeing with me, because it’s clear that Bizier definitely wasn’t universally regarded as a top-ten world-rated fighter.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 20:27Bizier was his mandatory. Ibf had him top 10 right?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 20:06What’s the majorly?Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 20:00 Howd you score brook v porter?
https://www.ringtv.com/352719-insider-s ... wn-porter/
He went and got a decision in another country, majority judges and media had him winning
And besides, the British media (i.e. Sky & Box-Nation) believed that Brook lost the Porter fight.
And regardless as to whether anyone disagrees, it’s an undeniable fact that Brook has never scored a clear-cut decisive victory over any universally regarded top-ten world-rated fighter.
Finally, even if we agree to disagree about the outcome of the Porter bout, can you name a top-ten world-rated fighter (not named Shawn Porter) that Kell Brook has beaten?
This isn’t an emotional discussion, whereby we’re discussing feelings, I only care about the facts.
I wouldnt rate him, but it is an undeniable fact a world sanctioning organization had him in their top 10. Agree?
We got there in the end and it’s good for these discussions to reach their natural conclusion where we both see eye-to-eye.
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Im not agreeing
my opinion, though the best opinion, isnt a fact. A fact is a universally recognized sanctioning body rated jo io dan and bizier. So if you are going fact based.....
my opinion, though the best opinion, isnt a fact. A fact is a universally recognized sanctioning body rated jo io dan and bizier. So if you are going fact based.....
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Enlightened-One
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
What you’ve written doesn’t relate to anything I’ve claimed though, does it?Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 18:39 Im not agreeing
my opinion, though the best opinion, isnt a fact. A fact is a universally recognized sanctioning body rated jo io dan and bizier. So if you are going fact based.....
Christopher Lovejoy was recently rated as a top-15 fighter by the WBA, that doesn’t mean that ESPN, TBRB, The RING, BoxRec, the media in general or anyone from this forums considered him as being a world-rater fighter.
Don’t go quoting the rankings of governing bodies ever again, because that’s just silly and I know for sure you already know this!
Two words: Fres Oquendo!
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: 2014 FMJ vs 2014 Brook - how this fight would pan out?
Dont knock Fres bro.
Hasnt been cleanly beaten in 16 years
Hasnt been cleanly beaten in 16 years
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Enlightened-One
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