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Derek Chisora has to be worth a mention in this...

Stevieaber wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 06:15 Larry Gains beat Primo Carnera

Missed that one. Good point

I wonder are there any fighters who won a world title but never actually beat anyone else who held a world title - in other words it was a vacant title? Different question but must be one!

John L Sullivan

Crease wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 07:36 Derek Chisora has to be worth a mention in this...

No.

Charles Kid McCoy

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 07:01 Eubank said they both used to do him in sparring /\

Chris should have watched Calzaghe doing a demolition job on Dean in the ABA's. Could have prepared him for the beating he got from Joe.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 08:19 Charles Kid McCoy

He beat Tommy Ryan (and possibly other world champs without looking his record up)

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 11:30

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 07:01 Eubank said they both used to do him in sparring /\

Chris should have watched Calzaghe doing a demolition job on Dean in the ABA's. Could have prepared him for the beating he got from Joe.

Eh?
Are you okay?

A young kid beginner against a highly experienced grown man. Wtf

Weird.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 12:30

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 11:30

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 07:01 Eubank said they both used to do him in sparring /\

Chris should have watched Calzaghe doing a demolition job on Dean in the ABA's. Could have prepared him for the beating he got from Joe.

Eh?
Are you okay?

A young kid beginner against a highly experienced grown man. Wtf

Beginners don’t get that far in the abas. They’re not allowed to even enter until they are open class.

Plus, Joe was 20, a year after winning them at 19. This was Joe with his hands good, imagine the damage he’d have done in the pros if they held up! Especially to those he floored! I suppose it doesn’t matter, he’s still the UK’s greatest ever Super Middleweight ahead of Froch.

This is just odd.

dr_devious wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 11:42

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 08:19 Charles Kid McCoy

He beat Tommy Ryan (and possibly other world champs without looking his record up)

I hadn’t realised Tommy Ryan was a legitimate world champion.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 13:58 This is just odd.

Don’t you know what open class means?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 15:13

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 13:58 This is just odd.

Don’t you know what open class means?

Get a job.

Put that pot noodle away Mickey1975

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 07:44 I wonder are there any fighters who won a world title but never actually beat anyone else who held a world title - in other words it was a vacant title? Different question but must be one!

Deffo been a few of these, Kwanthai Sithmorseng being one such applicable answer. Don't think Samuth Sithnaruepol did either tbh.

Martin Murray springs to mind as a good 'modern' answer. Very unlucky that the scorecards didn't go his way in any of his biggest fights, and was never matched with a faded former belt holder either. Not necessarily the best, but a very solid fighter.

I was sure I had another one with Scott Quigg who got his belt by beating Rendall Munroe, getting 'upgraded' from interim, then drawing with a Cuban guy who also had never held a world title. But I forgot he faced Kiko Martinez before the Frampton fight. I imagine Kiko rules out a whole bunch of guys, he's been around the European scene for a while now.

Liam Smith is another one. Sorry, this has just turned into 'any Brit in the 4 belt era who's got their hands on a world title without ever beating another world champ' which is still a really hard question to answer! Of course if Liam Williams upsets Andrade tomorrow then he's off the list.

Jamie Moore is undoubtedly the best fighter never to fight for the world title...hes not actually eligible for this

stujones wrote: ↑16 Apr 2021, 17:49 Jamie Moore is undoubtedly the best fighter never to fight for the world title...hes not actually eligible for this

Errol Christie and Dean Francis were leagues upon leagues above Jamie in ability.

As good as anything we’ve seen on these shores in terms of potential/talent. Ever.

Matthew macklin was good against strum Martínez watching that fight back he was better than murray barker

macklin got robbed vs sturm and was ahead on the cards after 10 vs martinez, he fought really well in those for sure