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I could just imagine Fury at a press conference though....If I have to I’ll knock you out AJ then 4 weeks later I’ll knock that bum Wilder out again

skanksta wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 05:56

handsofstone wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 10:57 It pisses me off no end, i seriously cant be fcvked annoyed with the lot of it but any Heavyweight scrap other than Joshua/Fury is a step down, no matter how good other match up are

Fury wanted no part of this, cant convince me otherwise

Really ?

Why on earth would Fury not want it ? He's bigger, better boxer, established No.1 and the betting favourite. He's also (if only slightly) the B side. Financially, Sporting Legacy.., whatever way you look at it, no other fight makes sense.

Why TF do you think he doesnae' want it ?

His ability or ranking means fvck all Skank, id favour him over Joshua but he knew this fight wasnt happening, you think he never knew Arum booked Vegas for July? They all knew which is why the whole team have been pissy in the build up, a bunch of lying amatuer time wasters, Hearns making a pudendum of himself wasting his time trying to make this fight while team Fury all knew they were fighting Wilder, if people can't see that then its stone cold bias

Fury is a drug cheating, pretend mental health enthusiast bull sh1t artist and his fans lap it up because the boxing snob in them are pertifed of being labelled a casual when the truth is the anti matchroom mob are the real casuals, uk boxing is overrun with them

handsofstone wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 09:02
His ability or ranking means fvck all Skank, id favour him over Joshua but he knew this fight wasnt happening, you think he never knew Arum booked Vegas for July? They all knew which is why the whole team have been pissy in the build up, a bunch of lying amatuer time wasters, Hearns making a pudendum of himself wasting his time trying to make this fight while team Fury all knew they were fighting Wilder, if people can't see that then its stone cold bias

Fury is a drug cheating, pretend mental health enthusiast bull sh1t artist and his fans lap it up because the boxing snob in them are pertifed of being labelled a casual when the truth is the anti matchroom mob are the real casuals, uk boxing is overrun with them

Going in hard, but there are a lot of truths there.

Yeah going in hard !

Plausible tho' - the only reason Fury wouldn't want it is that he can fight Wilder first for good money and Superfight next. IF that's genuinely known to be on the table behind the scenes - then yeah

Manos normal talks sense.

TopGun wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 10:45 Because Joshua will then fight Usyk - which in my opinion will be a better fight. Usyk can win this.

Fury will fight Wilder again, which again, could go either way.

So instead of 1 fight we get 2!

Better for us boxing fans but for the causals they wont be happy

Anyone agree?

Disagree, if Usyk beats Joshua there will be the rematch clause back and forth and that will be at least another year wasted plus the clamour for the Fury vs Joshua showdown will be diminished. Fury beating Wilder again does nothing for the sport plus we know Usyk is a bit of a sicknote injury-prone fighter same with Wilder. Now or never for Joshua vs Fury, strike while the iron is hot etc.

Wilder and Usyk should fight each other on the undercard.

Or even as their own main event, perhaps as a free fluffer the weekend before ?

skanksta wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 10:02 Yeah going in hard !

Plausible tho' - the only reason Fury wouldn't want it is that he can fight Wilder first for good money and Superfight next. IF that's genuinely known to be on the table behind the scenes - then yeah

Manos normal talks sense.

Im not suggesting Fury is scared or ducking Joshua im just saying he didnt want fight, him and Wilder loved lording it over Joshua and Hearn when they fought each other claiming AJ was the ducker and those 2 were showing everyone how it was done blah blah but then Wilder dropped a bollock by admitting he turned down the Joshua fight, luckily for Fury and Wilder 50% of fans are retarded and act like it never happened


As stupid as it sounds i jùst like my boxers to box and promoters to put on shows, Joshua for the most part is active and has made his plans clear what his objective is, to be undisputed, Fury just says what feels that day, look at the nonsense with Whyte and Silver belt, made an arse of himself, Wilder is still great for division but the constant mud slinging and conspiracy theories make him a laughing stock,

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:55

Foggy wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:44 It wouldn’t have been an issue back in the golden old days, Fury could have fought Joshua and Wilder within a month of each other.......go on Fury go old school

A bit optimistic considering he hasn’t fought at all in 15 months

Hasn't he fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:55

Foggy wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:44 It wouldn’t have been an issue back in the golden old days, Fury could have fought Joshua and Wilder within a month of each other.......go on Fury go old school

A bit optimistic considering he hasn’t fought at all in 15 months

Hasn't he fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years?

Dunno really, I imagine it’s roughly the same although Fury had a couple of gimmes when he came back so maybe that’s skewed it in his favour a bit. Still don’t see him having 2 fights in a month tho!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:55

Foggy wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:44 It wouldn’t have been an issue back in the golden old days, Fury could have fought Joshua and Wilder within a month of each other.......go on Fury go old school

A bit optimistic considering he hasn’t fought at all in 15 months

Hasn't he fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years?

No - he hasn’t. 6 times since the start of 2018 (including 3 gimmes) whilst AJ’s fought 5 times and then regular fights in 2017 and 2018.
Not sure how fights 3 years ago help though but I think it will help Fury a fair bit fighting Wilder before AJ at the end of the year to shake off any ring rust he might have. Saying that he’s the most comfortable heavyweight in the ring since Ali for me so not sure how much rust he’ll have.

Coco wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 14:56

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 12:28

emallini wrote: ↑18 May 2021, 11:32 Completely disagree. I want to see Fury Joshua.

Me too. Also Joshua too big and strong for Usyk.

Agreed and Wilder will be easy for Fury, Wilder just wants a pay off

Wilder likely spent longer preparing his silly ring walk costume than he did preparing for an improved Fury.
You can guarantee he will be a lot more dangerous with that right hand if/when they fight next.
None of the top heavyweights today are particularly good are they; just the best of a very bad bunch. A piss poor, egotistical and unprepared Wilder losing so badly last time hugely flattered Fury .. but we could have the tables turned next time.

Fury will be the big betting favourite, but I believe Wilder will be a lot more prepared and dangerous.

skanksta wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 10:35 Wilder and Usyk should fight each other on the undercard.

Or even as their own main event, perhaps as a free fluffer the weekend before ?

You underestimate Wilders ego.
He isn't going to be on the undercard of anyone's fight.

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 07:55

A bit optimistic considering he hasn’t fought at all in 15 months

Hasn't he fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years?

No - he hasn’t. 6 times since the start of 2018 (including 3 gimmes) whilst AJ’s fought 5 times and then regular fights in 2017 and 2018.
Not sure how fights 3 years ago help though but I think it will help Fury a fair bit fighting Wilder before AJ at the end of the year to shake off any ring rust he might have. Saying that he’s the most comfortable heavyweight in the ring since Ali for me so not sure how much rust he’ll have.

So he's fought 6 to Aj's 4 in the last 3 years? Including two super fights?

Plus points to AJ though for going to America as well, even though it didn't turn out very well. But, I still think he got much less stick for quitting than Billy Joe did even against a far inferior fighter.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:52 Plus points to AJ though for going to America as well, even though it didn't turn out very well. But, I still think he got much less stick for quitting than Billy Joe did even against a far inferior fighter.

AJ is a lot more respecting within the industry so got less stick .. he is also a money making machine and very influential, so people are quite careful what they say in case they burn their bridges.

BJS doesn’t give a sh1t about anyone and so that same behaviour is reflected back to him somewhat I think .

knockout wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:56

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:52 Plus points to AJ though for going to America as well, even though it didn't turn out very well. But, I still think he got much less stick for quitting than Billy Joe did even against a far inferior fighter.

AJ is a lot more respecting within the industry so got less stick .. he is also a money making machine and very influential, so people are quite careful what they say in case they burn their bridges.

BJS doesn’t give a sh1t about anyone and so that same behaviour is reflected back to him somewhat I think .

Only in The UK. His numbers are terrible in America.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:48

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:34
Hasn't he fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years?

No - he hasn’t. 6 times since the start of 2018 (including 3 gimmes) whilst AJ’s fought 5 times and then regular fights in 2017 and 2018.
Not sure how fights 3 years ago help though but I think it will help Fury a fair bit fighting Wilder before AJ at the end of the year to shake off any ring rust he might have. Saying that he’s the most comfortable heavyweight in the ring since Ali for me so not sure how much rust he’ll have.

So he's fought 6 to Aj's 4 in the last 3 years? Including two super fights?

No - 6 fights to 5 fights since the start of 2018 (when Tyson came back). Again not sure how much relevance that has to this but Tyson being out of the ring for a while might have done. Assuming he fights Wilder next that’s no issue.

Right now there are following plans:

1. Fury and Joshua must fight each other.

2. Usyk must fight Joyce.

3. Wilder must die.

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 16:06

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:48

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 13:55

No - he hasn’t. 6 times since the start of 2018 (including 3 gimmes) whilst AJ’s fought 5 times and then regular fights in 2017 and 2018.
Not sure how fights 3 years ago help though but I think it will help Fury a fair bit fighting Wilder before AJ at the end of the year to shake off any ring rust he might have. Saying that he’s the most comfortable heavyweight in the ring since Ali for me so not sure how much rust he’ll have.

So he's fought 6 to Aj's 4 in the last 3 years? Including two super fights?

No - 6 fights to 5 fights since the start of 2018 (when Tyson came back). Again not sure how much relevance that has to this but Tyson being out of the ring for a while might have done. Assuming he fights Wilder next that’s no issue.

I was going 3 years from today.

Just Chuck all the belts in a trash can and forget Wilder and Uysk, the Fury AJ is bigger than any belt

I don't see anything which makes me think AJ beats Fury, Fury's quicker, more skillful, more resilient and more adaptable.

The again I see no reason for a 3rd Fury/Wilder fight, Fury outboxed Wilder in the first fight and battered him in the second, I find it hard to believe Wilder has improved enough since their last bout to do anything different.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 16:57

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 16:06

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 May 2021, 15:48
So he's fought 6 to Aj's 4 in the last 3 years? Including two super fights?

No - 6 fights to 5 fights since the start of 2018 (when Tyson came back). Again not sure how much relevance that has to this but Tyson being out of the ring for a while might have done. Assuming he fights Wilder next that’s no issue.

I was going 3 years from today.

And I was disagreeing with your original point that Tyson ‘fought a lot more than AJ over the last few years’ - he hasn’t.

And activity 3, 4, 5 years ago doesn’t have any impact at all in what will happen in the next 12 months. Being out of the ring for the 16 months might have an impact for some fighters but I don’t think Tyson’s one of them.

I’m not fussed. I’d rather see Crawford-Spence or Loma-Lopez II than any of that crap.

Wouldn't surprise me if both teams new all along that it was never happening, never mind they are having a bare knuckle dust up at the weekend now, Ronnie Pickering Style.

Can't be arsed with the shìt show tbh,Wilder wanted the Joshua fight it took ages to get done and they blamed each other,Wilder then fights Fury not once but twice now Joshua can't get the Fury fight done either? They have been trying to get this fight done since Christmas but Wilder and Fury can sort 2 fights as easy as that? Joshua thinks he is better than he is and that's why he isn't fighting the WBC champ no matter who that might be. Joshua is the reason why these fights arnt getting made imo. I am not interested in any other fight at heavyweight other than Joshua vs Fury.