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KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 23:04

Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.

I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.

I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.

There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.

Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.

One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.

Interesting post
I agree about Joe Joyce. I also would stake a bet Parker is clean.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 05:34 Hughie Fury Struggling To Secure Top Opponents, Says Father/Trainer

Peter Fury, father and trainer of heavyweight contender Hughie Fury, explains that none of the highly ranked contenders are interested in facing his son.

The 26-year-old Hughie has remained patient while his next fight is being sorted out. He's been out of the ring since defeating Polish veteran Mariusz Wach in December.

According to his trainer, a ring return is being planned for September - but several high profile names have rejected a possible fight with him.

"Everybody realizes he's a lot better than what people say he is, so that's my opinion," Peter Fury told Sky Sports.

"Let me tell you, we've offered some high-profile people fights with Hughie - and they've looked up and said they'll fight anyone. But when Hughie is mentioned, they don't want to fight him, so that's where it's at.

"I don't want to mention any names, but that's where it is. We'll find him an opponent. He'll be fighting in September anyway. Absolutely [he's lost respect]. Boxing is becoming a bit of a soap opera. That real fighting culture, there's only so many around today. A lot of them, they are more into social media and being a celebrity than a boxer."

Last year, there was some talk of Hughie facing names like David Allen and David Price, but that won't be the direction he's taking in the fall.

"Really a fellow like Hughie, he's not a world champion, he shouldn't be struggling for fights like he is," said Peter Fury.

"He's been working on his game. He's got older, he's filled out, and he's got time on his side, so it's not been a problem for him really. There was Dave Allen, then David Price was thrown into the mix. That never happened, for whatever reasons and we just moved on from there. We're going to start looking at opponents any day now. Nothing set in stone. We're just looking around and seeing what's a good match for him at the moment. You'll see a different fighter altogether."

Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.

I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.

I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.

There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.

Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.

One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.

Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.

I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.

I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.

There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.

Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.

One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.

jameswilson wrote: ↑20 Jul 2021, 12:32 I don't understand why they didn't take the David Price fight. Potential for a rare exciting fight for Hughie.

jameswilson wrote: ↑20 Jul 2021, 12:32 I don't understand why they didn't take the David Price fight. Potential for a rare exciting fight for Hughie.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:00 It's a conundrum alright.
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:15

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:00 It's a conundrum alright.
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience

I do wonder what's going on behind the scenes he's not fought this year yet and has no fight planned.

Also with all the media Hearn does, I can't recall him mentioning Hughie in a few months.
Mind you there's a few others Hrgovic, Joseph Parker etc the same in no mans land

In regard to Hughie he also isn't ranked by any sanctioning body so unlikely to get anything there anytime soon.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 21:26 guys, guys.....he's just a wee lad yet. still a babe. not yet got his man strength. only a tot. just a kid.

when he grows up, he'll be a beast

Glass Joe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 06:32 Alen Babic vs Hughie Fury would like to see that early next year.

peter barlow wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 08:30

Glass Joe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 06:32 Alen Babic vs Hughie Fury would like to see that early next year.

Why not this year? It's still mid August

jameswilson wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 08:43

peter barlow wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 08:30

Glass Joe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 06:32 Alen Babic vs Hughie Fury would like to see that early next year.

Why not this year? It's still mid August

Hughie hasn't had the obligatory 18 months out yet for it to happen this year.