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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Jul 2021, 04:00

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 21:17

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 20:23
How does Hughie Fury’s resume in the pro ranks compare to other 26 year old heavyweights?

Would they have remained unbeaten if they’d faced Fury’s opposition at 24 years of age or younger?

I’ve seen improvements in Hughie. He may never be as good as Tyson, but I can’t hold his losses against him.

He’s a difficult fighter to beat. He is very durable and can definitely box.

How does he compare? unfavorably because hes boring and he sucks.

I agree.

Hughie Fury isn’t an exciting fighter to watch.

Even I struggle to watch his bouts and I’m an advocate of his.

But, he’s better than his resume and none of his fellow young prospects around the same age would consider facing him, because he’s high-risk low-reward.

He has skills. But putting it together is another story

A lot of fighters are like that. Malik scott comes to mind

I think this fight ends with an extremely frustrated Wilder taking a decision despite having landed fewer punches and never looking like knocking Hughie out.

Most of us will agree the decision was fair and be thinking that if only Hughie hadn't been so negative and had shown a little more self-belief and authority in his punches he may have got the win.

Sound familiar?

I remember some years back Hughie was actually offered a shot at Wilder. I've interviewed him and Peter and Tyson quite a few times, and I let my thoughts be known then--- that as much as I like Hughie, my heart and mind could never say, "Take the fight you have a chance."

Yes, Hughie's been in world class training camps since he was a teenager. Yes, he's got the abilities to share the same ring with world class heavyweights. But he's not had enough experience in the ring against world class heavyweights when it's for keeps.

This is a man who went from fighting journeymen to top fifteen types--- and skipping the middle ground really hurt him. It's taken up until recently that he's been comfortable being offensive in there. And no offense, looking good against Mariusz Wach does NOT in any way, shape or form warrant a shot at anyone in the top five or ten.

I'd like to see him against another "gate keeper," and then against someone like Luis Ortiz. If he can manage that, then give him Snickers (Ruiz). Slow and steady is going to win the race for Hughie Fury.

Ugh. This would end up being one ugly fight. Deontay, as awkward as he is already, facing an opponent who once he takes a few hard shots, will succumb to hugging and holding any chance he gets. Hughie will just do whatever it takes to try and survive to the final bell. What an ugly fight this would be. Please, NO.

All of Hughie Fury's fight are ugly.

He's a slightly smaller slower duller version of his cousin.

H Fury v T Fury could be a contender....for the worst fight ever.

Or the funniest, but you wouldn't want to pay it.
In fact no one outside friends and family would want to pay to watch a Fury fight.

It's always the opposition that brings the mainstream fans.

The old boring Mayweather trick.

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Aug 2021, 07:29 I think this fight ends with an extremely frustrated Wilder taking a decision despite having landed fewer punches and never looking like knocking Hughie out.

Most of us will agree the decision was fair and be thinking that if only Hughie hadn't been so negative and had shown a little more self-belief and authority in his punches he may have got the win.

Sound familiar?

i agree, one of the few fights where i might actually go wilder decision instead of ko

hughie's focus vs anyone with a pulse is merely survival rather than winning

I'll go with KO unless junior chooses to run for 12 rounds...

which he would

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑03 Aug 2021, 07:50
This is a man who went from fighting journeymen to top fifteen types--- and skipping the middle ground really hurt him.

That's a really interesting point that never occurred to me. You might have something there.

This is not the fight that Hughie needs. Hughie is a good fighter who proved he is a tough customer in his competitive losses to Parker and Pulev. What he needs first of all right now is the best win that he could notch for sure; i.e Kownacki, Helenius, Washington. Once he gets a relatively assured good win, then he can go for a halfway risky fight, and by risky, I mean 50/50ish like Wallin, Kabayel, Bakole, or Yoka; not another guaranteed loss like Wilder, Usyk, or Whyte.

grit is one thing that hughie hardly showed anything of vs pov, parker, and pulev. he was extremely hesistant to commit to punches vs all of them. the cut vs pulev totally shut him down. he has shown little mental toughness or willingness to dig in vs live opponents who come at him

if he goes fully defensive vs wilder, he might be able to last the distance, but he wont do enough of his own work to win a decision.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Aug 2021, 22:11 grit is one thing that hughie hardly showed anything of vs pov, parker, and pulev. he was extremely hesistant to commit to punches vs all of them. the cut vs pulev totally shut him down. he has shown little mental toughness or willingness to dig in vs live opponents who come at him

if he goes fully defensive vs wilder, he might be able to last the distance, but he wont do enough of his own work to win a decision.

I agree with your assessment.

panchito wrote: ↑08 Aug 2021, 23:16

Wales wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 21:41 The thread stated with the claim Hughie had a better resume than wilder. Which he hasn’t .

^^^^^^


Wrong mate. Those thick reading glasses still arent helping your comprehension skills a'tall.

I said Hughie has faced the better opposition, not the better resume. Put that pipe away and go find your clown shoes there chum!

Hughie has faced 3 champs.

Wilder has faced 2 champs.

Nuff said.

Name a few 'A' level guys that Wilder has stopped? You can't do it.

Wilder has faced 3 champions.
Fury, Stiverne and liakovich.
And I'm not defending either resume just correcting facts

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 19:39

bobcatbox wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 19:29 Now we’re talking!

Deontay KOs Hughie inside three rounds.

think it would go longer myself, hughie is hard to stop when he's just focused on surviving, which vs an offensive threat like wilder im pretty sure would be the case. and wilder usually takes longer to lower the boom. duhaupas, szpilka, molina, washington, stiverne 1, arreola, ortiz x2.........

who knows might even be wilder's 2nd decision win

Maybe, but Wilder may also be ruined by another KO loss to Tyson, if the first one hasn’t done the trick.

panchito wrote: ↑08 Aug 2021, 23:16

Wales wrote: ↑26 Jul 2021, 21:41 The thread stated with the claim Hughie had a better resume than wilder. Which he hasn’t .

^^^^^^


Wrong mate. Those thick reading glasses still arent helping your comprehension skills a'tall.

I said Hughie has faced the better opposition, not the better resume. Put that pipe away and go find your clown shoes there chum!

Hughie has faced 3 champs.

Wilder has faced 2 champs.

Nuff said.

Name a few 'A' level guys that Wilder has stopped? You can't do it.

Hughie has faced

Povetkin
Pulev
parker (lost all 3)
Wach
Guinn
Rudenko

Sam sexton (tsk)

Fighters Wilder has faced
Fury
Fury
Ortiz
Ortiz
Brazelae
Stiverne
Stiverne
Spitka
Washington
Arreola
Dauphas
Molina
Laikovich

Oh and wilder has beaten them all except Fury

Wales wrote: ↑12 Aug 2021, 00:10 Oh and wilder has beaten them all except Fury

Lovejoy has beaten them all except Charr.... P4P king