Who else does Usyk need to defeat for Glory?

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HomicideHenry wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 23:09 I admit the Ukrainian fooled me. I mean who the hell else but Tyson Fury has ever purposely looked like crap in matches in order to make his opponent believe he's a non-threat? I honestly did not know it was in his character. Had I had a clue that was in his repertoire I might've leaned towards Usyk.
Its what you have to do to get so called champions to fight you now Henry.
Keep you "0" and look like crap and you'll get a title shot.
It was what I thought Parker was doing when he fought Huggie Fury so he could get the AJ fight.
:doh: turns out he wasn't that good after all
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You guys saw a different fight than I did. I thought Joshua did pretty well really, I didn't score the thing but I saw that Usyk won I'd say by 3 rounds or so unless we put the 12th at 10-8. You can count me back as a member of the AJ fanclub provided that he doesn't b1tch out of the rematch. Or acctually I think that he should. Usyk vs AJ I is over and winning the rematch won't change its results. People are however still warm for AJ vs Fury. Bring it on. AJ can do a Usyk rematch after that fight.
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It's definitely possible that Usyk can beat Fury, to me it's 50/50 fight, but I slighty favour Usyk.
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KiwiRider wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 19:27 I would love to see Uysk in with Parker. I know he would win, but still think it is worth watching for the action.
I would have agreed you had the date stamp on your post said 2019 and not 2021.

I think Parker has regressed a bit.
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Tyson Fury beats Oleksandr Usyk.

I think it’ll be considered a horrendously boring fight (by mainstream casuals), because it’ll be an extremely technical affair, but also difficult to watch as there’ll inevitably be lots clinches.

Tyson will employ all sorts of ugly unorthodox tactics to try to take Usyk out of his comfort zone.

Alternating between aggressive mauling and lateral movement, switch hitting, lots of feints, occasional dirty tactics, goading, pushing Usyk to the ropes etc.

Unlike Joshua, Fury has the ability to mix things up and is effective at adapting to the challenge he’s faced with.

One of things that people rarely mention is Fury’s excellent engine and high work-rate.

Unlike Usyk’s previous foes, The Gypsy King doesn’t seem to run out-of-gas and often seems to get stronger as fights progress.

Anyway, it’ll be a very a competitive fight though, but it won’t be enjoyable to watch.

If Fury and Usyk ever do fight, I’m torn as to who I’d want to win.

My brain tells me that Tyson beats Oleksandr, but my heart currently suggests that I may be slightly inclined to support Usyk come fight night.
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Usyk has always been skilled, no doubt, but after moving to heavy, beating a shot Chaz Witherspoon and semi shot Chisora, I questioned how he might do.

Of course, if I was a narcissistic enlightened one, I would have known for sure, and never admit I was wrong if he didn't pan out. In fact, I would have edited my past posts to prove I was right! If AJ won, I would also have bragged about how much I won betting on him. :lol:
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Fury hasn't fought someone light and athletic like Cunningham since Cunningham :lol:. Every fight after have been heavyweights of the plodding type. Fury took a lot of punishment in that Cunningham fight. On top of that, Fury was using every dirty trick just to keep Cunningham in place. People forget how blatant Fury was with his fouls, and a better referee likely would've been close to DQ'ing Fury.
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Wilder! Let's see if the Bomber can catch him. :box:
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the #1 on the list of usyk will obviously be whoever wins fury-wilder 3
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Usyk/wilder would be fascinating! Will never happen obviously
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Obviously the Fury vs Wilder 3 winner. He'll have to beat AJ again first of course, which is no gimme either obviously, but if he could do it once he could do it twice.
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Fury will beat Usyk, but i'll be placing a bet on Usyk.
There, that about covers it, yes?
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The Gratest wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:20 Fury will beat Usyk, but i'll be placing a bet on Usyk.
There, that about covers it, yes?
it's the safe bet for posting glory where you stroke yourself giddy after the fight irrespective of the result mate, we call it the 'EO hedge'
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Counter-puncher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:22
The Gratest wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:20 Fury will beat Usyk, but i'll be placing a bet on Usyk.
There, that about covers it, yes?
it's the safe bet for posting glory where you stroke yourself giddy after the fight irrespective of the result mate, we call it the 'EO hedge'
I'm amazing I am me.
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The Gratest wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:33
Counter-puncher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:22
The Gratest wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 07:20 Fury will beat Usyk, but i'll be placing a bet on Usyk.
There, that about covers it, yes?
it's the safe bet for posting glory where you stroke yourself giddy after the fight irrespective of the result mate, we call it the 'EO hedge'
I'm amazing I am me.
make sure you go on an internet forum and broadcast it, mate. don't be hiding that genius under a bushel, share it with the people :yay:
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thats a decent idea actually, predict one guy will win, bet on the other, all bases covered for post fight glory
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 10:26 thats a decent idea actually, predict one guy will win, bet on the other, all bases covered for post fight glory
But, what about a draw ?
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ValMar wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 12:58
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 10:26 thats a decent idea actually, predict one guy will win, bet on the other, all bases covered for post fight glory
But, what about a draw ?
Well if I predict AJ to win, and bet on Usyk to win, a draw in EO world actually means i was right twice over, doubly right :lol:
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Counter-puncher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 13:06
ValMar wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 12:58
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 10:26 thats a decent idea actually, predict one guy will win, bet on the other, all bases covered for post fight glory
But, what about a draw ?
Well if I predict AJ to win, and bet on Usyk to win, a draw in EO world actually means i was right twice over, doubly right :lol:
:clap:
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aicheligad wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 14:48 He is a legend already, but if he beats the winner of Fury/Wilder, he'll be one of the greatest ever.
Styles make fights though.
He'd have to defeat Both of those men.
If Wilder beats Fury,then obviously that'd be his next opponent, and even if he then defeated Wilder, he could still lose to Fury because of the contrast in Styles.
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H8Usernames wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 19:26 The way I see it Usyk's next 10 fights assuming that there are no major changes in the Hw division (there always are) should be against:

1. Joshua
2. Ruiz
3. Whyte
4. Breidis
5. Wilder (victory or loss vs fury doesn't matter)
6. Ortiz
7. Eje Ajagba
8. Filip Hrgovic
9. Victor Ramirez
And 10. Tony Yoka

There is a misconception floating around that a certain Tyson Fury is the heavyweight champion and a force to be reckoned with at HW. This is like previously stated a misconception. Tyson Fury is the "Freakweight" champion of the world and he can engage in fights vs fellow giants or small foolishly brave guys but he doesn't have any claim to any heavyweight championship. Oleksander Usyk certainly can't beat him and he certainly shouldn't attempt to do so either.
So you are saying that he should duck Fury like a little b*tch.
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snake33 wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 13:23
H8Usernames wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 19:26 The way I see it Usyk's next 10 fights assuming that there are no major changes in the Hw division (there always are) should be against:

1. Joshua
2. Ruiz
3. Whyte
4. Breidis
5. Wilder (victory or loss vs fury doesn't matter)
6. Ortiz
7. Eje Ajagba
8. Filip Hrgovic
9. Victor Ramirez
And 10. Tony Yoka

There is a misconception floating around that a certain Tyson Fury is the heavyweight champion and a force to be reckoned with at HW. This is like previously stated a misconception. Tyson Fury is the "Freakweight" champion of the world and he can engage in fights vs fellow giants or small foolishly brave guys but he doesn't have any claim to any heavyweight championship. Oleksander Usyk certainly can't beat him and he certainly shouldn't attempt to do so either.
So you are saying that he should duck Fury like a little b*tch.
You are the little b1tch. But no ofcourse not. Canelo Alvarez should also take on Fury to prove his p4p #1 status. Canelo should also ofcourse fight Jon Jones in an mma match in order to not be a little b1tch.
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snake33 wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 13:23
you were not rating usyk at all my man, what did you think of his big win
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Counter-puncher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 13:06
ValMar wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 12:58
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Sep 2021, 10:26 thats a decent idea actually, predict one guy will win, bet on the other, all bases covered for post fight glory
But, what about a draw ?
Well if I predict AJ to win, and bet on Usyk to win, a draw in EO world actually means i was right twice over, doubly right :lol:
But but if it’s a draw, should Usyk retire?
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Usyk should avenge his loss to Shawn Porter from the amateurs. Catchweight of let's say 180? :OhYes:
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