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Dioufy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 13:10 Maybe Fury was bang on. Joshua is just a bodybuilder and doesn’t do ‘beyond the limit’ cardio as it will affect his physique. AJ needs to decide whether he’s a 250lb banger… balls deep, ect box-fighter or a 230lb mover who boxers and can sustain a high-work.
He’s in-between at the moment and he’s lost an identity.
You cannot come into Rocky music and not be prepared to pull the trigger out of fear for a counter.

This is such garbage. AJ is an elite level boxer with a big S&C team and will be training for boxing... he just happens to have more fast twitch muscle fibers than slow...

I think Joshua’s cardio must be reasonable for his size. I recall he won the mountain bike event at Superstars back in the day. Mo Farah very nearly beat him in the javelin, which I guess goes to show size isn’t everything. I think it’s a bit late in the day to expect too many changes. There’s always going to be a couple of boxers out there who can outbox him.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 17:46

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 17:26 There’s no chance in hell Joshua is running sub-15sec 100m, never mind 10sec

I'd say Sub 15 isn't unlikely.

I ran 12.3 as a 16 year old and I wasn't exactly an athlete

You also weren’t 17st

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 07:22

Dioufy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 13:10 Maybe Fury was bang on. Joshua is just a bodybuilder and doesn’t do ‘beyond the limit’ cardio as it will affect his physique. AJ needs to decide whether he’s a 250lb banger… balls deep, ect box-fighter or a 230lb mover who boxers and can sustain a high-work.
He’s in-between at the moment and he’s lost an identity.
You cannot come into Rocky music and not be prepared to pull the trigger out of fear for a counter.

This is such garbage. AJ is an elite level boxer with a big S&C team and will be training for boxing... he just happens to have more fast twitch muscle fibers than slow...

Since when has he been an elite level boxer?!

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 08:42

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 17:46

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 17:26 There’s no chance in hell Joshua is running sub-15sec 100m, never mind 10sec

I'd say Sub 15 isn't unlikely.

I ran 12.3 as a 16 year old and I wasn't exactly an athlete

You also weren’t 17st

How do you know that?

Also as we've just seen, Joshua clocked under 12 seconds as an olympic super heavyweight - so I think we can conclude that you were wrong.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 08:45 Since when has he been an elite level boxer?!

Since he won an Olympic gold medal

I think the 100m stuff is pretty irrelevant to boxing. Couldn’t Larry Olubamiwo run one in 11 seconds in his youth? I do have a feeling Frank Bruno might be the one struggling to crack 15 seconds.

I was doing 13 at school and I wasn't the fastest.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 02:56

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 18:00

Impressive, wet day too. Decent form as well.

Built for short Explosive power events , bet he's pants at 1500 metres .
Like when you watch top class muscle bound Decathletes , they look like they are dying on the last lap .

Yes from a cardio point of view I suspect there’s not a huge amount to be done. Regardless of 100 metres, I suspect you’d never really be able to get him under 40 minutes for 10km, which most lower level club runners can do. At this advanced stage of his career I think you’d have to say Usyk and Fury are definitely a bridge too far for him. Joshua was fortunate in career to only have to fight the 41 year old version of Wlad, and only have a lot of B grade type fighters to deal with there after.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 11:57

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 08:45 Since when has he been an elite level boxer?!

Since he won an Olympic gold medal

Gifted at least three of the decisions. As you well know. The mediocre Italian made him look silly.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 11:31

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 08:42

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 17:46

I'd say Sub 15 isn't unlikely.

I ran 12.3 as a 16 year old and I wasn't exactly an athlete

You also weren’t 17st

How do you know that?

Also as we've just seen, Joshua clocked under 12 seconds as an olympic super heavyweight - so I think we can conclude that you were wrong.

The day cogglesworth admits he got something wrong is the day I get crowned Bridgerweight world champion

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:49

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 11:57

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 08:45 Since when has he been an elite level boxer?!

Since he won an Olympic gold medal

Gifted at least three of the decisions. As you well know. The mediocre Italian made him look silly.

I’d have to revisit them to be honest but from memory they were questionable decisions rather than outrageous gifts.

On the wider issue, how would you define elite level boxer ?

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 17:08

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:49

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 11:57
Since he won an Olympic gold medal

Gifted at least three of the decisions. As you well know. The mediocre Italian made him look silly.

I’d have to revisit them to be honest but from memory they were questionable decisions rather than outrageous gifts.

On the wider issue, how would you define elite level boxer ?

Chris Eubank Sr

dookus wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 17:10

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 17:08

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:49

Gifted at least three of the decisions. As you well know. The mediocre Italian made him look silly.

I’d have to revisit them to be honest but from memory they were questionable decisions rather than outrageous gifts.

On the wider issue, how would you define elite level boxer ?

Chris Eubank Sr

dookus wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 17:10

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 17:08
I’d have to revisit them to be honest but from memory they were questionable decisions rather than outrageous gifts.

On the wider issue, how would you define elite level boxer ?

Chris Eubank Sr

Sr deserves immense respect for staying away from the cameras lately and allowing Roy and Jr to receive the attention. Imagine how hard that is for a notorious attention seeker and narcissist.

'immense respect' just for not having his photo taken?

your 'immense respect' bar is set pretty low. But then, that's hardly a news flash.

Running 100m is nothing realy. Doesn’t matter how quick you do it. It’s over within seconds.

He couldn’t do a Mo Farah could he? Or a mini marathon?

He’s in the ring for 40 mins fighting. Not 15 seconds.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Oct 2021, 04:43 'immense respect' just for not having his photo taken?

your 'immense respect' bar is set pretty low. But then, that's hardly a news flash.

I’m messing around dimlow. Have a day off kid.

Let’s call Linford Christie to clean up at super-middle.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:49 Imagine how hard that is for a notorious attention seeker and narcissist.

I’m sure you find it quite easy to relate

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Oct 2021, 06:04

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:49 Imagine how hard that is for a notorious attention seeker and narcissist.

I’m sure you find it quite easy to relate

True.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:49 Sr deserves immense respect for staying away from the cameras lately and allowing Roy and Jr to receive the attention. Imagine how hard that is for a notorious attention seeker and narcissist.

You guys do know this is Chris Snr right?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Oct 2021, 05:07 Running 100m is nothing realy. Doesn’t matter how quick you do it. It’s over within seconds.

He couldn’t do a Mo Farah could he? Or a mini marathon?

He’s in the ring for 40 mins fighting. Not 15 seconds.

That was the whole point - his 100m prowess (derived from his natural fast twitch muscle fibres) being detrimental to having extensive endurance.