Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed
Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 09:00
Canelo is the just the face needed to truly light up the WBC Bridgerweight Regular Interim Diamond belt.
I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 05:07Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.HomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Nov 2021, 20:33 If he was to continue boxing 175 is the only place he can go. This talk of cruiserweight and heavyweight is insane though. If he did such a thing he would give up a lot of his speed, and basically become a sitting duck.
Maybe if cruiserweight was 190 again like when Roy Jones jumped to heavyweight (193) but to be 200+ is too much of a stretch. He'd get eaten alive by Joey Dawejko or something.
No, Canelo should just pursue 175 and go no farther than that. He's already did it once, so he can do it again.
He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
Wilder no way. He would catch Canelojamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 10:09I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 05:07Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.HomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Nov 2021, 20:33 If he was to continue boxing 175 is the only place he can go. This talk of cruiserweight and heavyweight is insane though. If he did such a thing he would give up a lot of his speed, and basically become a sitting duck.
Maybe if cruiserweight was 190 again like when Roy Jones jumped to heavyweight (193) but to be 200+ is too much of a stretch. He'd get eaten alive by Joey Dawejko or something.
No, Canelo should just pursue 175 and go no farther than that. He's already did it once, so he can do it again.
He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.
Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
Probably, yeah.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 10:37Wilder no way. He would catch Canelojamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 10:09I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 05:07
Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.
He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.
Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 09:00 Canelo is the just the face needed to truly light up the WBC Bridgerweight Regular Interim Diamond belt.
Way too dangerous. Wilder's punching power would make him a non-starter as a potential opponent for anyone of Canelo's siza.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 10:37Wilder no way. He would catch Canelojamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 10:09I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2021, 05:07
Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.
He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.
Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
u'r just hatin' mate! i don't like it.Thomastearns wrote: ↑10 Nov 2021, 11:50 Clenelo Alvarez can beat the NSAC, the WBC, WBA, IBF, the Mickey Mouse Club, WADA, VADA and most global boxng commissions/promoters/networks.
The PED poster boy of the sport can even win (or occasionally draw) the fights he loses.
The Mexican beef lover is a living testament to the eternal power of mammon.
All must bow before the mighty money machine.
Just don't mention Golovkin, Beterbiev, or Benavidez.
The mighty C doesn't enjoy the use of that kind of language in his beefed up royal presence.
Henry the Eight had nothing on this beef lover.
Nor for me. Even if he lost badly I'd respect him for taking on not just a cruiserweight but an elite cruiserweight.H8Usernames wrote: ↑10 Nov 2021, 12:53 Would losing to Briedis lower Canelo's stock? Not for me it wouldn't anyway.
How about Briedis vs your darling what his name Dillian Whyte? Not an easy fight to pick a winner for.candyslim wrote: ↑11 Nov 2021, 07:12Nor for me. Even if he lost badly I'd respect him for taking on not just a cruiserweight but an elite cruiserweight.H8Usernames wrote: ↑10 Nov 2021, 12:53 Would losing to Briedis lower Canelo's stock? Not for me it wouldn't anyway.
That's very unlikely to happen though. I mean no disrespect but Canelo selects his targets very carefully and will be smart enough to steer clear of Briedis.
No way that a broken down, ring rusty 38 year old Ward is beating Canelo.
You knows it
Absolutely no chance.Syntax Error wrote: ↑11 Nov 2021, 13:39No way that a broken down, ring rusty 38 year old Ward is beating Canelo.
Peak Ward against Canelo is one of my dream hypotheticals, but not an ageing and comebacking Ward.