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Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 09:00
by The Gratest
Canelo is the just the face needed to truly light up the WBC Bridgerweight Regular Interim Diamond belt.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 10:09
by jamesmcdonnell
candyslim wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 05:07
HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 20:33 If he was to continue boxing 175 is the only place he can go. This talk of cruiserweight and heavyweight is insane though. If he did such a thing he would give up a lot of his speed, and basically become a sitting duck.

Maybe if cruiserweight was 190 again like when Roy Jones jumped to heavyweight (193) but to be 200+ is too much of a stretch. He'd get eaten alive by Joey Dawejko or something.

No, Canelo should just pursue 175 and go no farther than that. He's already did it once, so he can do it again.
Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.

He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.

I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.

Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 10:37
by JamesPhilips
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 10:09
candyslim wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 05:07
HomicideHenry wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 20:33 If he was to continue boxing 175 is the only place he can go. This talk of cruiserweight and heavyweight is insane though. If he did such a thing he would give up a lot of his speed, and basically become a sitting duck.

Maybe if cruiserweight was 190 again like when Roy Jones jumped to heavyweight (193) but to be 200+ is too much of a stretch. He'd get eaten alive by Joey Dawejko or something.

No, Canelo should just pursue 175 and go no farther than that. He's already did it once, so he can do it again.
Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.

He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.

I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.

Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
Wilder no way. He would catch Canelo

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 11:35
by JamesPhilips
Maris Breidis offering him a shot

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/11/ma ... m=facebook

Breidis by KO

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 13:24
by jamesmcdonnell
JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 10:37
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 10:09
candyslim wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 05:07

Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.

He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.

I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.

Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
Wilder no way. He would catch Canelo
Probably, yeah.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 09 Nov 2021, 14:25
by KiwiRider
The Gratest wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 09:00 Canelo is the just the face needed to truly light up the WBC Bridgerweight Regular Interim Diamond belt.
:doh:

Sinko de Mayo?

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 04:12
by Evander
Some of the 175 Light Heavyweights are big Light Heavyweights if you know what I mean.
Bivol is possible to beat because Canelo could get by on a strength skill experience combo.
Beterbiev would be more of a strength issue.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 04:39
by candyslim
JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 10:37
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 10:09
candyslim wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 05:07

Whatever weight Canelo fights at, Light-heavy or even Cruiser, I would urge him not to bulk up. His main weapon against a bigger man other than technique, is his speed. It would be foolish to trade speed for strength especially when the opponent is likely to remain the stronger man regardless.

He could probably beat a heavyweight but he'd need to choose carefully. I'd suggest someone slow of hand, foot and preferably thought. Someone who trades on toughness, durability, and stamina (they have to have a few things going for them or they are not going to be good enough to make beating them worthwhile) I might suggest he start with a Chazz Witherspoon and see how he fares with him.
I think there's an outside chance he could pull a Roy Jones, though Jones was a naturally bigger man, but he needs a weak belt holder, as for once he will be in with a much much bigger puncher.

I think we can forget Usyk, Fury, Joshua, all of those are too good.

Could he beat a Wilder? Well, there's an interesting one, Wilder has terrible technique, but he'd have so many physical advantages, height, weight, reach, power.
Wilder no way. He would catch Canelo
Way too dangerous. Wilder's punching power would make him a non-starter as a potential opponent for anyone of Canelo's siza.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 07:45
by Evander
On the boxrec 168.
Only Benevidez challenges him.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 11:50
by Thomastearns
Clenelo Alvarez can beat the NSAC, the WBC, WBA, IBF, the Mickey Mouse Club, WADA, VADA and most global boxng commissions/promoters/networks.

The PED poster boy of the sport can even win (or occasionally draw) the fights he loses.

The Mexican beef lover is a living testament to the eternal power of mammon.

All must bow before the mighty money machine.

Just don't mention Golovkin, Beterbiev, or Benavidez.

The mighty C doesn't enjoy the use of that kind of language in his beefed up royal presence.

Henry the Eight had nothing on this beef lover.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 12:53
by H8Usernames
Would losing to Briedis lower Canelo's stock? Not for me it wouldn't anyway.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 10 Nov 2021, 13:18
by adislav123
Thomastearns wrote: 10 Nov 2021, 11:50 Clenelo Alvarez can beat the NSAC, the WBC, WBA, IBF, the Mickey Mouse Club, WADA, VADA and most global boxng commissions/promoters/networks.

The PED poster boy of the sport can even win (or occasionally draw) the fights he loses.

The Mexican beef lover is a living testament to the eternal power of mammon.

All must bow before the mighty money machine.

Just don't mention Golovkin, Beterbiev, or Benavidez.

The mighty C doesn't enjoy the use of that kind of language in his beefed up royal presence.

Henry the Eight had nothing on this beef lover.
u'r just hatin' mate! i don't like it.😘

what's up with gongora's ibo belt? doesn't beef boi want his strap for real 'undisputed' status?

ibo not really worse than the other organisations, just little less known.

would be a nice little inbetween fight before steping up in an attempt to get the 175 belts.

which could be the end of canelo's unbelievable success story.

that's the reason why i don't think they will give it a go.

he and his camp are 100 percent professional to the core, which includes knowing whom you go after and whom you better leave alone.

i'd be very surprised if canelo takes on bivol or beterbiev. same time that's whom i wanna see him fight the most. and smith jr. :bag: make that one! you can do it saul baby!

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 11 Nov 2021, 07:12
by candyslim
H8Usernames wrote: 10 Nov 2021, 12:53 Would losing to Briedis lower Canelo's stock? Not for me it wouldn't anyway.
Nor for me. Even if he lost badly I'd respect him for taking on not just a cruiserweight but an elite cruiserweight.

That's very unlikely to happen though. I mean no disrespect but Canelo selects his targets very carefully and will be smart enough to steer clear of Briedis.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 11 Nov 2021, 07:36
by H8Usernames
candyslim wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 07:12
H8Usernames wrote: 10 Nov 2021, 12:53 Would losing to Briedis lower Canelo's stock? Not for me it wouldn't anyway.
Nor for me. Even if he lost badly I'd respect him for taking on not just a cruiserweight but an elite cruiserweight.

That's very unlikely to happen though. I mean no disrespect but Canelo selects his targets very carefully and will be smart enough to steer clear of Briedis.
How about Briedis vs your darling what his name Dillian Whyte? Not an easy fight to pick a winner for.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 11 Nov 2021, 08:02
by candyslim
I would give Briedis a respectable chance. We all know Dillian can be caught, hurt, dropped, even knocked out, and we learned from the Charr fight that Briedis can really crack. If he were to catch Dillian right he could go.

On balance though I'd make Whyte a strong favourite because he is way bigger, more powerful, and boxes well enough that Briedis would be well advised not to mix it up with him or take liberties.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 11 Nov 2021, 13:05
by adislav123
Too hard a jab. Reach advantage.

Given whyte brings a concentrated a game effort.

Briedis would think twice to step in if whyte just deliveres a 1-2, sitting down a tad on the 2.

But who really knows, could easily turn into a brawl.
Briedis is no pushover. If he lands an uppercut whyte steps into... well, that's the big man's game.

If the skills are there, frikkin everything can happen at any given moment.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 11 Nov 2021, 13:39
by Syntax Error
Bling wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 21:48 Ward.

Andre Ward is the best fighter that Canelo could add to his resume rn. This is the best possible fight that is remotely logical.

P.S. even though he is nearly five years out of the ring, I favour Ward.
No way that a broken down, ring rusty 38 year old Ward is beating Canelo.

Peak Ward against Canelo is one of my dream hypotheticals, but not an ageing and comebacking Ward.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 04:57
by Loki
Calzaghe. Too clever, too fast and too active/busy.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 06:08
by Enlightened-One
This thread is kind of funny!

People are being asked their opinions about the fighters that Canelo is capable of beating.

Instead, many of the responses are from posters commenting on whom they feel can beat Canelo!

I guess if you’re asking for specific feedback from the BoxRec community, you’ll have to employ reverse psychology to obtain it, by creating topics about the polar opposite!

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 06:59
by The Gratest
Tyson wins in 3 :box:

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 07:34
by pugilisticspecialist
Makabu is ranked #2 at cruiserweight and his frame is comparable to Kovalev, who Canelo stopped.

I'd love to see Makabu vs Canelo.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 07:50
by Counter-puncher
The Gratest wrote: 12 Nov 2021, 06:59 Tyson wins in 3 :box:
:yay: right hook to the body, right uppercut to the head :bag: :yay:

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 08:35
by The Gratest
Counter-puncher wrote: 12 Nov 2021, 07:50
The Gratest wrote: 12 Nov 2021, 06:59 Tyson wins in 3 :box:
:yay: right hook to the body, right uppercut to the head :bag: :yay:
You knows it :salut:
A leaping left hook ala Eddie Richardson to fiinally fnish off the taller Alvarez.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 08:44
by jamesmcdonnell
Syntax Error wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 13:39
Bling wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 21:48 Ward.

Andre Ward is the best fighter that Canelo could add to his resume rn. This is the best possible fight that is remotely logical.

P.S. even though he is nearly five years out of the ring, I favour Ward.
No way that a broken down, ring rusty 38 year old Ward is beating Canelo.

Peak Ward against Canelo is one of my dream hypotheticals, but not an ageing and comebacking Ward.
Absolutely no chance.

Ward quit because of recurring injuries, he'd get battered if he came out of retirement now.

I'd have favoured him in his prime no doubt, boring to watch, but a very special fighter.

Re: Who can Canelo beat ... ? Opinions needed

Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 09:15
by Bandog