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Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:07
by Coco
Alex Arthur

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:15
by stujones
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:07Alex Arthur
Officially a world champion.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:16
by Coco
stujones wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:15
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:07Alex Arthur
Officially a world champion.
Interims count?

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:28
by stujones
margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:01 arguably, though a few other guys on his record who might have beaten cox

if he got the decision over cal it wouldnt have been unfair tbf
Agree on Ryder not having a solid win on a resume, but he argueably beat two Brits who were in the top 3 (arguably) p4p in 2021 - Smith AND Saunders.

He definitely wouldn't be high on the list if he makes the 10 though - but it could be argued he should be considered as good as Murray. He ran the #1 in the division (Smith) as close as Murray did when he fought the #1 in his division - and neither have chalked up a solid win. Whereas someone like Macklin did win at European Level (and some good European fighters) before moving up to world title.

Maybe a "sleeper" to be mentioned here for the lower portion of the top 10 - Adrian Stone - not a bad final three fighters to lose to - Vernon Forrest, Shane Mosley and Sergio Martinez. Again maybe more talent than accomplishment.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:46
by Coco
At this rate Paul Smith will make the list

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:51
by Coco
Jason Booth

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:51
by Coco
Jay Harris

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:53
by Coco
Terry Dunstan

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:53
by Wee Tommy
Kash Farooq
Dappa Napa
John Simpson

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:54
by Coco
Brian Magee

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:56
by Coco
Colin Lynes
Wayne Alexander

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:59
by Coco
Jason Cook
Bernard Dunne
Michael Hunter
Rend all Munroe
Gavin Mcdonall

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 18:01
by Coco
Damien Kelley

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 18:59
by knockout
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:53Terry Dunstan
Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 20:02
by BigEars
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:59 Jason Cook
Bernard Dunne
Michael Hunter
Rend all Munroe
Gavin Mcdonall
Dunne held the WBA (regular) belt while Caballero was "Super" Champion, so probably doesn't count.

Damien Kelly, as you mentioned in your next post is a great shout though.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 22:21
by mickey1975
knockout wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 18:59
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:53Terry Dunstan
Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..
Terry had a straightener in prison with an officer who really fancied himself. The bloke ended up having 3 months off work.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 05:53
by dookus
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:54Brian Magee
:TU: Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 05:58
by margaret thatcher
having done a quick boxrec, magee was much more accomplished than id remembered, olympian too before going pro

seems a bit forgotten

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 08:57
by JamesPhilips
David Starie

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 09:07
by stujones
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:54Brian Magee
As Alex Arthur - he was upgraded to "full" world title. His WBA title fight with Kessler was a defence for Brian - even though Kessler was the last person to hold that belt.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 09:07
by stujones
dookus wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 05:53
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:54Brian Magee
:TU: Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..
Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 09:49
by knockout
mickey1975 wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 22:21 [quote=knockout post_id=5700291 time=<a href="tel:1644274757">1644274757</a> user_id=1880]
[quote=Coco post_id=5700253 time=<a href="tel:1644270793">1644270793</a> user_id=12204]Terry Dunstan
Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..
[/quote]
Terry had a straightener in prison with an officer who really fancied himself. The bloke ended up having 3 months off work.
[/quote]

Someone didn’t do their due diligence :))

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 10:14
by dookus
stujones wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 09:07
dookus wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 05:53
Coco wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 17:54Brian Magee
:TU: Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..
Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?
:brick: sorry, confused the two!

I thought Brian Magee was WBA interim? But I guess for this thread we're ignoring those baubles

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 12:12
by stujones
dookus wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 10:14
stujones wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 09:07
dookus wrote: 08 Feb 2022, 05:53
:TU: Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..
Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?
:brick: sorry, confused the two!

I thought Brian Magee was WBA interim? But I guess for this thread we're ignoring those baubles
Magee was a full champion - awarded out of the ring and defended (and lost) vs Kessler - Kessler was the champion in recess but he was stripped when they fought.

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 12:18
by forcefraser
Kirkland Lang
Tony Sibson