Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 09:57
There was talk of a potential bout against Andy Ruiz Jr.
But both men will almost certainly need a tune-up beforehand (Wilder needs a confidence builder and Ruiz Jr. needing to rid himself of the ring-rust due to being inactive for so long through injury).
I still feel this bout happens, since they’re the biggest names in the PBC’s heavyweight roster.
You don't understand how PBC Haymon work.
. How very much dare you!
You come on here, and call out EO, the Enlightened-One, or Lightie to his friend, on something he is rather expert on?
Well I would say:
"Oi! 600450! NO!!
You do not come on here, denigrating senior posters, taking up their valuable time and having them to be cutting and pasting links and previous forum posts about stuff the rest of us already know, just because you can't be bothered researching your troll target "
I have never ever seen him being referred to as Lightie?
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 16:53
by Bard of Boxrec
It’s only Lightie to his friend
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 17:32
by oogiebe
Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 16:53
It’s only Lightie to his friend
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 13:19
According to those dates, Paul Williams was campaigning at 160lbs, with Money May competing at 147lbs.
Do you care to try again?
they were both welterweights for years of crossover, Floyd would have got slaughtered by Williams at 147 or 154. Easy easy work for Paul.
Even Williams has stated there was no time that this fight made sense from a promotional standpoint.
I don't recall him saying this. If he did please share link proof. If he did say it, he was surely told to say it by Haymon because the top priority of the Haymon empire was always Floyd, WIlliams was used as a pawn to try to knock off Floyd threats (Margarito, Martinez, Cintron, etc.)
they were both welterweights for years of crossover, Floyd would have got slaughtered by Williams at 147 or 154. Easy easy work for Paul.
Even Williams has stated there was no time that this fight made sense from a promotional standpoint.
I don't recall him saying this. If he did please share link proof. If he did say it, he was surely told to say it by Haymon because the top priority of the Haymon empire was always Floyd, WIlliams was used as a pawn to try to knock off Floyd threats (Margarito, Martinez, Cintron, etc.)
Even Williams has stated there was no time that this fight made sense from a promotional standpoint.
I don't recall him saying this. If he did please share link proof. If he did say it, he was surely told to say it by Haymon because the top priority of the Haymon empire was always Floyd, WIlliams was used as a pawn to try to knock off Floyd threats (Margarito, Martinez, Cintron, etc.)
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 19:03
by KiwiRider
Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 16:53
It’s only Lightie to his friend
Late 2009 2010 but WIlliams would have beat Floyd by KO or 120-108.
According to those dates, Paul Williams was campaigning at 160lbs, with Money May competing at 147lbs.
Do you care to try again?
they were both welterweights for years of crossover, Floyd would have got slaughtered by Williams at 147 or 154. Easy easy work for Paul.
You originally said that a Mayweather-Williams fight could have taken place “ late 2009 2010”.
Why did you say that? Was it a lie, whilst desperately hoping I wouldn’t fact-check your claims?
And if this was only a mistake on your part, then please provide an alternate date when Mayweather could have fought Williams?
If you can’t answer this very simple question, then do you at least have enough integrity to admit the fact you’ve lied?
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 22:18
by oogiebe
Wasn't this about Deontay Wilder?
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 22:30
by margaret thatcher
no one, and i mean no one, gets away with saying something bad about floyd joy mayweather!
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 22:33
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 22:30
no one, and i mean no one, gets away with saying something bad about floyd joy mayweather!
not even lightie?
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 12 Feb 2022, 23:42
by The Gratest
We've found his friend
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 00:52
by Bard of Boxrec
Oogs and lightie sittin’ in a tree
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 00:55
by oogiebe
Bard of Boxrec wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 00:52
Oogs and lightie sittin’ in a tree
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 01:01
by Bard of Boxrec
IRONFIST wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 11:29
Stick him in with Joyce or Helenius next then he can target the loser of Usyk vs Joshua rematch and then a possible final fight with the hopefully undisputed champ, if he gets past those other two fights.
I would like to see wilder/Joyce. Seems like an awful matchup for Joyce actually with his tactic of blocking punches with his face, but if that breezeblock noggin can survive a few wild swings it might get interesting
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 01:29
by tiny_acres
I would still like to see Wilder win the bogus bridger weight belt from Rivas. Then retire with his little belt
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 01:31
by margaret thatcher
doesnt stand a chance vs the bridgerweight goat, wilder simply isnt an atg like rivas
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 02:00
by KiwiRider
Just to get back on topic, what is next for Wilder is retirement, another child to another baby momma.
Property settlement, child support, selling off his bling for 1/4 what he paid for it, then a heralded return to the ring at 39 years old for a one off match on ppv where he does his shoulder in R1, then gets knocked over (not out) by Andy Ruiz, who at 400 pounds finds his ankles just aren't up to it.
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 04:35
by Lackeos
He may or may not be too damaged from recent KO's to continue fighting at an elite level. And even if he's not, he's 36, so he should be starting to age out of his prime now. All of this means that the best way to maximize revenue for Wilder might be to look for one final big payday in the near term. In that case, I'd say that he should wait until 10 months after his loss and then take a tune-up that doesn't look too much like a tune-up (i.e. opponent has some name recognition and isn't too much worse than his bad title defenses); like Junior Fa, Lucas Browne, Erkan Teper, Alexander Ustinov, or David Allen. After one tune-up, go for the cash out fight against probably Anthony Joshua, maybe Oleksandr Usyk, or maybe Dillian Whyte, or at worst Joseph Parker or Joe Joyce.
Some people might be too harsh and act like Wilder can't make money anymore, but he can. Remember, Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson did $107 million and 1.95 million ppv buys in the U.S. alone; and this was in 2002 when Tyson was ranked like #20ish in the world, 6 years after his first Holyfield loss, 12 years after his Buster Douglass loss, which was when he truly started going downhill. Oscar De La Hoya was at least 4 years past his prime when he fought Pacquiao, but that fight did amazing numbers. Mosley was years past-it when he fought Mayweather and Pacquiao. Even now, boxrec says Wilder is #10 p4p, which even if inaccurate, says he's definitely not finished commercially. Don't be f*cking ridiculous; the dude was the #3-4 heavyweight in his prime, and he's the #3-4 heavyweight now. He's literally only lost to ONE OPPONENT, and that opponent is the #1 heavyweight and probably top 10 all-time heavyweight.
Re: What's Next For Deontay Wilder?
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 06:30
by emallini
KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 02:00
Just to get back on topic, what is next for Wilder is retirement, another child to another baby momma.
Property settlement, child support, selling off his bling for 1/4 what he paid for it, then a heralded return to the ring at 39 years old for a one off match on ppv where he does his shoulder in R1, then gets knocked over (not out) by Andy Ruiz, who at 400 pounds finds his ankles just aren't up to it.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 13:19
According to those dates, Paul Williams was campaigning at 160lbs, with Money May competing at 147lbs.
Do you care to try again?
they were both welterweights for years of crossover, Floyd would have got slaughtered by Williams at 147 or 154. Easy easy work for Paul.
You originally said that a Mayweather-Williams fight could have taken place “ late 2009 2010”.
Why did you say that? Was it a lie, whilst desperately hoping I wouldn’t fact-check your claims?
And if this was only a mistake on your part, then please provide an alternate date when Mayweather could have fought Williams?
If you can’t answer this very simple question, then do you at least have enough integrity to admit the fact you’ve lied?
Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight. He moved up because Haymon wouldn't give him the Floyd fight after beating Margarito, another fight Floyd ducked for over a year. Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.
. How very much dare you!
