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Controversial wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 04:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 01:24 Taylor said making weight was a piece of piss. That was before he lost the fight.

Maybe he made weight ok but felt flat in the fight and now thinking it affected him after all ?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 01:24 Taylor said making weight was a piece of piss. That was before he lost the fight.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 04:53

And general battle fatigue, which the very wise Jamie moore adhered to before the fight: all those unbeaten fighters and huge effort takes it out of you.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 05:17 Oh!
Great clip Tommo
Thanks for that, very interesting indeed. So he says no to 147, will lose his attributes at that weight.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 05:17 Oh!
Great clip Tommo
Thanks for that, very interesting indeed. So he says no to 147, will lose his attributes at that weight.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 06:19

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 05:17 Oh!
Great clip Tommo
Thanks for that, very interesting indeed. So he says no to 147, will lose his attributes at that weight.

mmm i was thinking that. actually saturday made me wonder just how much his size has been part of his success; I do think he would struggle certainly against the bigger punchers @ 147lbs because he is (even at his best before saturday) fairly hittable, and he wouldn't be able to wrestle and maul and bully as he did Prograis and Ramirez.

jimmystone wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 15:00 People underestimated Catterall, that much was clear after three minutes. Perhaps Taylor has been overrated. He seemed short of ideas to me. That's not down to weight issues.

rab wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 17:59

jimmystone wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 15:00 People underestimated Catterall, that much was clear after three minutes. Perhaps Taylor has been overrated. He seemed short of ideas to me. That's not down to weight issues.

It is. The most obvious issues from cutting a lot of weight are bad enough, but the other less talked about issues, particularly those that affect the brain are just as bad, possibly worse. Eyesight, reaction time, timing, spatial awareness and the very ability to think, particularly at the pace required in a fight don't seem to be discussed much.

Human beings are made up of water, carbon and a bunch of chemicals that make all the physical bits work the way they do. Rehydrating is not just getting the water back but getting that chemical balance back. What i saw was a Taylor that looked nervous during and after the weigh in right up to stepping in the ring. I think he knew he wasn't feeling right by a long way.

I never believed the line he could do his whole career at 140, no one that is his height and in their early thirties is going to keep that up, it was inevitable he was going to go to the well once too often weight wise the longer he stayed at 140. He is a lucky, lucky boy. If Catterall had been a banger Taylor's heart, chin and stubborness would have kept him up long enough to endure a bad beating ending in a stoppage,possibly career ending or worse.

He looked a shadow of himself and no matter how good Catterall was (i thought he was great, timing and accuracy as good as i have ever seen him) Taylor isn't that bad. Time will tell if he can come out the other side of this fight with the mental toughness he will need at the level he is fighting. I hope Catterall goes on to bigger and better things, his confidence should be through the roof after that and he deserves much more than he got at the weekend. He certainly won a load of new fans up here, me included.

jimmystone wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 15:00 People underestimated Catterall, that much was clear after three minutes. Perhaps Taylor has been overrated. He seemed short of ideas to me. That's not down to weight issues.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 08:56 tbf, cats best wins were edging davies (a guy taylor battered) and beating mckenna 94-93, rarely impressing any time recently. while taylor had beaten several top 10 rates guys and beaten 3 other champs. showed both that he could maul guys inside and also that he could time some nice counter shots, like what dropped ramirez and baranchyk.....

rab wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 17:59

jimmystone wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022, 15:00 People underestimated Catterall, that much was clear after three minutes. Perhaps Taylor has been overrated. He seemed short of ideas to me. That's not down to weight issues.

It is. The most obvious issues from cutting a lot of weight are bad enough, but the other less talked about issues, particularly those that affect the brain are just as bad, possibly worse. Eyesight, reaction time, timing, spatial awareness and the very ability to think, particularly at the pace required in a fight don't seem to be discussed much.

Human beings are made up of water, carbon and a bunch of chemicals that make all the physical bits work the way they do. Rehydrating is not just getting the water back but getting that chemical balance back. What i saw was a Taylor that looked nervous during and after the weigh in right up to stepping in the ring. I think he knew he wasn't feeling right by a long way.

I never believed the line he could do his whole career at 140, no one that is his height and in their early thirties is going to keep that up, it was inevitable he was going to go to the well once too often weight wise the longer he stayed at 140. He is a lucky, lucky boy. If Catterall had been a banger Taylor's heart, chin and stubborness would have kept him up long enough to endure a bad beating ending in a stoppage,possibly career ending or worse.

He looked a shadow of himself and no matter how good Catterall was (i thought he was great, timing and accuracy as good as i have ever seen him) Taylor isn't that bad. Time will tell if he can come out the other side of this fight with the mental toughness he will need at the level he is fighting. I hope Catterall goes on to bigger and better things, his confidence should be through the roof after that and he deserves much more than he got at the weekend. He certainly won a load of new fans up here, me included.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2022, 05:00 Weight issues don’t make you boz to a terrible game plan. From what I saw and read I think it’s a combination of :

Was too hyped up with the home crowd and steamed in
Didn’t rate jack thought he could walk him down
Clueless bullshitter in the corner
A crap camp where he came in overweight and maybe hasn’t been living the life
Catterall better than we thought

Coco wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 12:29 I thought weight was the main issue.

However will moving up be the answer?