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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 09 Aug 2022, 05:22
by jamesmcdonnell
high tower 1 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 16:28
Promoters only dealt with BJS because they were waiting for the Canelo payday. That’s been and gone so he’s of no use. Unreliable , terrible attitude , can’t punch , doesn’t sell tickets , his social media.
Precisely, Hearn figured there was a chance he could cash in on a big payday with Canelo - which has come and gone - and without a huge A-side, there's really nothing enticing any more about promoting him.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 09 Aug 2022, 06:21
by forcefraser
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18
Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victims
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 09 Aug 2022, 17:24
by daz74
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:52
daz74 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:38
BJS was best at 160, will be interesting where he fights next
I can assure you, whatever weight he fights at, it won't be interesting.
until Canelo cracked him a good un, BJS was in with a chance
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 09 Aug 2022, 18:33
by jamesmcdonnell
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18
Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victims
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Not being able to have power to heat your home and make hot water is a crisis.
We don't live in some poor village in Sub-Saharan Africa.
The economy has been woefully mismanaged, and firms have been allowed to make scandalous levels of profit from provision of energy, and millions of people are going to end up on the streets at the end of this year, because they simply won't be able to make ends meet - that is a crisis.
Ultra-soft toilet roll? Are you off your nut? You sound like some blue-rinse Tory voter from the shires.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 09 Aug 2022, 18:33
by jamesmcdonnell
daz74 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 17:24
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:52
daz74 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:38
BJS was best at 160, will be interesting where he fights next
I can assure you, whatever weight he fights at, it won't be interesting.
until Canelo cracked him a good un, BJS was in with a chance
Everyone is in with a chance until they get cracked.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 01:52
by samwbr
daz74 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 17:24
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:52
daz74 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 04:38
BJS was best at 160, will be interesting where he fights next
I can assure you, whatever weight he fights at, it won't be interesting.
until Canelo cracked him a good un, BJS was in with a chance
He was 4 rounds down on 2 and 2 down on the the 3rd card after 7. Not a cat in hells chance he was ever winning that fight. Was always going to be a TKO/KO every night of the week.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 05:30
by coneye
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18
Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Think that depends on whose arse it is , you got piles sticking out , i think super soft would be neccessary would'nt it , Stuff wiping an arse full of piles with newspaper cos you can't afford super soft
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 12:09
by tony1234
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18
Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victims
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Wait till you see your fuel bills in October. Heat your home or pay to see Billy Joe Saunders ? Quite a tough question there
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 13:28
by forcefraser
tony1234 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 12:09
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victims
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Wait till you see your fuel bills in October. Heat your home or pay to see Billy Joe Saunders ? Quite a tough question there
Boxing first for me. Although Billy Joe ain't my mug a pish
That is of course if some other crisis doesn't appear to outdo the previous one
I've stacked up on super soft for when the real crisis begins
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 13:30
by forcefraser
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 18:33
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 11:14
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victims
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Not being able to have power to heat your home and make hot water is a crisis.
We don't live in some poor village in Sub-Saharan Africa.
The economy has been woefully mismanaged, and firms have been allowed to make scandalous levels of profit from provision of energy, and millions of people are going to end up on the streets at the end of this year, because they simply won't be able to make ends meet - that is a crisis.
Ultra-soft toilet roll? Are you off your nut? You sound like some blue-rinse Tory voter from the shires.
I hear you my man, but seriously, MILLIONS of people on the street? Really? How many millions?
You sound like some red rinse left winger who loves a crisis.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 13:33
by jamesmcdonnell
forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:30
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 18:33
forcefraser wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 06:21
I hear what you're saying, but why does everything have to be a crisis. Financial crisis, Ukraine crisis, covid crisis, Cost of loving crisis.......... seems like everything is a crisis
The value of the word crisis has plummeted recently. It carries no weight.
No clean water for hundreds of millions of Africans, that is a crisis. Having to pay a few pennies more for some ultra soft toilet roll doesn't seem quite as crucial
Not being able to have power to heat your home and make hot water is a crisis.
We don't live in some poor village in Sub-Saharan Africa.
The economy has been woefully mismanaged, and firms have been allowed to make scandalous levels of profit from provision of energy, and millions of people are going to end up on the streets at the end of this year, because they simply won't be able to make ends meet - that is a crisis.
Ultra-soft toilet roll? Are you off your nut? You sound like some blue-rinse Tory voter from the shires.
I hear you my man, but seriously, MILLIONS of people on the street? Really? How many millions?
You sound like some red rinse left winger who loves a crisis.
Hang on, that was meant to be thousands!
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 14:49
by liamlion
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:33
forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:30
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 18:33
Not being able to have power to heat your home and make hot water is a crisis.
We don't live in some poor village in Sub-Saharan Africa.
The economy has been woefully mismanaged, and firms have been allowed to make scandalous levels of profit from provision of energy, and millions of people are going to end up on the streets at the end of this year, because they simply won't be able to make ends meet - that is a crisis.
Ultra-soft toilet roll? Are you off your nut? You sound like some blue-rinse Tory voter from the shires.
I hear you my man, but seriously, MILLIONS of people on the street? Really? How many millions?
You sound like some red rinse left winger who loves a crisis.
Hang on, that was meant to be thousands!
You’re entirely right in what you’re saying. Interest rates will continue to rise and mortgages will become unaffordable whereby inflated food and energy prices eat up disposable income.
More people in work are claiming universal credit than those out of work. Food banks are increasing... big economic problems are incoming in October when energy prices are going up again...
Ps i have just read that there are now over 2000 food banks in this country, thats more ‘restaurants’ than McDonalds. Jesus wept, what a terribly inept government.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 11 Aug 2022, 07:02
by jamesmcdonnell
liamlion wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 14:49
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:33
forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:30
I hear you my man, but seriously, MILLIONS of people on the street? Really? How many millions?
You sound like some red rinse left winger who loves a crisis.
Hang on, that was meant to be thousands!
You’re entirely right in what you’re saying. Interest rates will continue to rise and mortgages will become unaffordable whereby inflated food and energy prices eat up disposable income.
More people in work are claiming universal credit than those out of work. Food banks are increasing... big economic problems are incoming in October when energy prices are going up again...
Ps i have just read that there are now over 2000 food banks in this country, thats more ‘restaurants’ than McDonalds. Jesus wept, what a terribly inept government.
One of the other consequences is that many homeowners may also sell of their properties, because they are not able to realise the rents they need to cover the increased costs of mortgages, leading to an even greater housing shortage than currently.
I know quite a few people who have had been renting from the same Landlord for many years, and the Landlord has either decided to downsize and move back into their property or put it on the market.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 11 Aug 2022, 07:10
by jamesmcdonnell
liamlion wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 14:49
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:33
forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 13:30
I hear you my man, but seriously, MILLIONS of people on the street? Really? How many millions?
You sound like some red rinse left winger who loves a crisis.
Hang on, that was meant to be thousands!
You’re entirely right in what you’re saying. Interest rates will continue to rise and mortgages will become unaffordable whereby inflated food and energy prices eat up disposable income.
More people in work are claiming universal credit than those out of work. Food banks are increasing... big economic problems are incoming in October when energy prices are going up again...
Ps i have just read that there are now over 2000 food banks in this country, thats more ‘restaurants’ than McDonalds. Jesus wept, what a terribly inept government.
It's not ineptitude, that's the thing - this is what Tory Governments, especially ones with such fanatical alliegence to neoliberalism, deliver - they enable wealthy groups of people, and businesses to increase their wealth dramatically,
That's their job - and it is what happens when you have a cabinet which is stuffed with greedy multi millionaires - they protect their own, and their pals interests.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 11 Aug 2022, 07:16
by coneye
Makes you wonder just what the hell is going on the world over ,, These problems are not just Britain Australia is in big trouble the way were going , wages are un affordable to most boss's homelessness is rife used to be unheard of but now its every where , foods prices are going crazy went to nearly 10 dollars for a lettuce because theres a shortage , yet i read somewhere a farmer saying there is no shortage they have plenty , but the major suopermaket chains coles and woolworths are simply just not buying them to artificialy put prices up ,, petrol prices gone stupid ,, power well thats gone crazy , and its happenning the world over , yet the major companys that control it all are making bigger profits ,
I've always laughed at my eldest son and his conspiracy theories , i've said he's a crackpot in the making ,, but now ,, he just laughs at me and says , TOLD YA SO .
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 11 Aug 2022, 10:12
by Coco
For capitalism to work the elites need to give back every now and then to compensate for how much they take.
If you see the economy as an elastic band, it needs to be stretched to get the most money out of it, but if you stretch too hard it will break.
Now is the time to ease off a bit as that band is at breaking point.
Debt is another way of exerting this power, it's not just done to individuals but to countries as a whole.
They give out easy credit but it can't be escaped from, tying you to the crappy job you are then forced to put up with.
It's like owing favours in jail.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 05:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Billy Joe Saunders is losing weight after pictures of the boxing star circulated looking massively over his old super-middleweight limit.
The former two-weight world champion assured fans training to get back into some shape is already underway.
“I think this year is definitely possible for myself. I’m in the gym now, enjoying myself and going twice a day.
“I’m just enjoying it with the lads. I seem to be enjoying it. The weight is coming off, and I’m getting fitter by the day.
“I’m not going to rush anything. When I’m ready, I’m ready.
“It could be the end of the year or early next year. We’ll soon find out. It all depends on the opponents available.”
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 05:57
by cormack
dont bother losing the weight as you wont get anything other than cans or a eubank borefest
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 06:49
by jamesmcdonnell
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 05:42
Billy Joe Saunders is losing weight after pictures of the boxing star circulated looking massively over his old super-middleweight limit.
The former two-weight world champion assured fans training to get back into some shape is already underway.
“I think this year is definitely possible for myself. I’m in the gym now, enjoying myself and going twice a day.
“I’m just enjoying it with the lads. I seem to be enjoying it. The weight is coming off, and I’m getting fitter by the day.
“I’m not going to rush anything. When I’m ready, I’m ready.
“It could be the end of the year or early next year. We’ll soon find out. It all depends on the opponents available.”
No rush, take 20 years if need be.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 04:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Billy Joe Saunders Back in Serious Training, Plots Return To The Ring
Former two-division world champion Billy Joe Saunders is back in training to shave off a lot of the weight that he gained during his extended layoff.
Saunders has been out of the ring since May of 2021, when he suffered the first defeat of his pro career - a stoppage loss to Mexican superstar Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.
The super middleweight unification clash was stopped after Saunders sustained a fractured orbital bone.
At one point it appeared that Saunders would retire from the sport, but now he's plotting a return to the ring.
The targeted comeback could take place in late 2022 or early 2023.
"I have enjoyed a bit of down time and had a nice year out. I am getting a bit bored and I have got itchy fists so decided to do a little bit of training to shift some timber to see where the road will take me. Life is okay, I went for my check-ups to my doctor and he was happy," Saunders told Matchroom Boxing.
"The first thing is obviously your health. It is pointless boxing whatever you are boxing for whether it is millions or just a pound to come back if that's not in check, and if I decide, which it is looking like I will, to come back then I can. It is nice to enjoy a bit of training, and it is nice to have a clear head and to see where I want to go rather than have defenses and stuff and go where other people want me to go.
"I think this year is definitely marketable for myself. I am in the gym now going twice a day and the weight is coming off and I am getting fitter by the day. It could be [ready to fight] at the end of the year or it could be early next year but we will soon find out. It all depends on what opponent is available."
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 08:35
by CaptainSpacerod
Nailed on to fight Jr if he beats Benn
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 09:48
by Dan Dares
People always talk about how talented Saunders is/was, but he's never really shown this in the ring apart from one slick performance against Lemieux (was he was done for juicing afterwards?) and a close win against an Andy Lee that was well past his sell by date.
Nick Blackwell gave him murders, as did Ryder, Eubank Jnr, Akatov (he lost that fight for me). He doesn't do a ticket, is a thoroughly unpleasant character and is a shit watch from rounds 7 onwards.
Maybe allegedly can find him a fight for the money he wants? Mind you, he must have cost Warren a fair few quid over the years.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 10:01
by spudder56
If he doesn’t sell tickets or Ppv he might as well retire who’s going to pay to watch him he should be very grateful for what the game has given him the guys deluded as to his popularity and worth imo
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 23 Sep 2022, 09:53
by jamesmcdonnell
I predict his career is done.
He will want very handsomely paying if he returns, and who is going to give him the payday.
Eubank Jr, not sure he really needs or wants saunders any longer, certainly not if he is going to demand silly money.
He would do better to try and make a big fight with GGG.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 05:08
by Ruthless-RKO