Billy Joe Saunders *updates*
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Billy Joe Saunders *updates*
Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
It appears that Billy Joe Saunders’ comeback fight won’t be staged by his most recent promoter.
Matchroom Boxing head Eddie Hearn said he and the former super middleweight champion Saunders were unable to strike a deal for Saunders’ return bout.
“We looked at it, talked some numbers. I don’t think we can deliver what he wants us to deliver for him. So we’re happy for him to take whatever opportunities. I’d love to see Billy Joe Saunders back with us or with somebody else. Billy always needs a date to work toward, and he’s a fantastic talent,” Hearn told Boxing Social.
Saunders (30-1, 14 KOs) has not fought since May 2021 when he lost his 168-pound WBO title to Canelo Alvarez via eighth-round stoppage due to a fractured right orbital bone.
Weeks after the fight, Saunders said he was contemplating retirement and even attached a 50-50 figure to it, but an official announcement never materialized.
Saunders reportedly started training again in June.
Hearn signed Saunders to a promotional deal in August 2019 after the fighter parted ways with longtime promoter Frank W.
The slick southpaw Saunders turned pro in 2009 and has beaten the likes of Chris Eubank Jr., David Lemieux, Andy Lee, John Ryder, Martin Murray, and Gary O’Sullivan.
He will turn 33 years old at the end of August.
It appears that Billy Joe Saunders’ comeback fight won’t be staged by his most recent promoter.
Matchroom Boxing head Eddie Hearn said he and the former super middleweight champion Saunders were unable to strike a deal for Saunders’ return bout.
“We looked at it, talked some numbers. I don’t think we can deliver what he wants us to deliver for him. So we’re happy for him to take whatever opportunities. I’d love to see Billy Joe Saunders back with us or with somebody else. Billy always needs a date to work toward, and he’s a fantastic talent,” Hearn told Boxing Social.
Saunders (30-1, 14 KOs) has not fought since May 2021 when he lost his 168-pound WBO title to Canelo Alvarez via eighth-round stoppage due to a fractured right orbital bone.
Weeks after the fight, Saunders said he was contemplating retirement and even attached a 50-50 figure to it, but an official announcement never materialized.
Saunders reportedly started training again in June.
Hearn signed Saunders to a promotional deal in August 2019 after the fighter parted ways with longtime promoter Frank W.
The slick southpaw Saunders turned pro in 2009 and has beaten the likes of Chris Eubank Jr., David Lemieux, Andy Lee, John Ryder, Martin Murray, and Gary O’Sullivan.
He will turn 33 years old at the end of August.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
He obiously pricing himseld out.
Hear he was mentioning Andrade.
Why don't they just get it on at 168.
Hear he was mentioning Andrade.
Why don't they just get it on at 168.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
I think in this particular case it's simply that Saunders thinks he's worth way more than the reality of his market value - no real fanbase and has alienated a lot of people with his attitude, coupled with the fact he's been off the radar since the Alvarez fight.coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18 Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
He's not alone.Deserter wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:20I think in this particular case it's simply that Saunders thinks he's worth way more than the reality of his market value - no real fanbase and has alienated a lot of people with his attitude, coupled with the fact he's been off the radar since the Alvarez fight.coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18 Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
Waaayyy too many boxers think they're worth more than they are. I understand they risk their lives, but with many job. You get paid what your worth..
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
They should be paid what they’re worth. The reality is that boxers have, in the last 4/5 years but massively overpaid once they reach a certain level.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:24He's not alone.Deserter wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:20I think in this particular case it's simply that Saunders thinks he's worth way more than the reality of his market value - no real fanbase and has alienated a lot of people with his attitude, coupled with the fact he's been off the radar since the Alvarez fight.coneye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18 Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
Waaayyy too many boxers think they're worth more than they are. I understand they risk their lives, but with many job. You get paid what your worth..
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
If you read between the lines, Hearn is saying 'We're not that interested, good luck to him finding someone to pay for his fight.'Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 05:50 Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
It appears that Billy Joe Saunders’ comeback fight won’t be staged by his most recent promoter.
Matchroom Boxing head Eddie Hearn said he and the former super middleweight champion Saunders were unable to strike a deal for Saunders’ return bout.
“We looked at it, talked some numbers. I don’t think we can deliver what he wants us to deliver for him. So we’re happy for him to take whatever opportunities. I’d love to see Billy Joe Saunders back with us or with somebody else. Billy always needs a date to work toward, and he’s a fantastic talent,” Hearn told Boxing Social.
Saunders (30-1, 14 KOs) has not fought since May 2021 when he lost his 168-pound WBO title to Canelo Alvarez via eighth-round stoppage due to a fractured right orbital bone.
Weeks after the fight, Saunders said he was contemplating retirement and even attached a 50-50 figure to it, but an official announcement never materialized.
Saunders reportedly started training again in June.
Hearn signed Saunders to a promotional deal in August 2019 after the fighter parted ways with longtime promoter Frank W.
The slick southpaw Saunders turned pro in 2009 and has beaten the likes of Chris Eubank Jr., David Lemieux, Andy Lee, John Ryder, Martin Murray, and Gary O’Sullivan.
He will turn 33 years old at the end of August.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
DAZN is trying to get profitable and quick. This is why you are seeing the huge shifts in policy. Matchroom now all about good cheap headliners, the contracts it already has, and PPV.
Hearn will sell it as being all about sustainable etc. but his policy was the polar opposite of this the last three and a bit years.
Hearn will sell it as being all about sustainable etc. but his policy was the polar opposite of this the last three and a bit years.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Saunders' stock is almost dead, and no one really talks about time any more. He probably wants 7 figures for a fight but be lucky to get 6.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
inflated self worthRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 05:53 He obiously pricing himseld out.
Hear he was mentioning Andrade.
Why don't they just get it on at 168.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
He and his team were also a bit of a nightmare in the lead up to the Canelo fight. It helped the promotion but threatening to pull out unless they get a much bigger a ring (and just lying about the facts surrounding ring size) and moaning loads of other stuff won’t endear him to Matchroom.
Obviously Eddie will do anything for money but I’d imagine BJS would want good money for a poor fight and then crazy money for a bigger one whilst the reality is that without a title he doesn’t bring much to the table.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
He's lucky he's always had a belt since before he fought Eubank.
Maybe bar 1 or two fights
Maybe bar 1 or two fights
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
I think Hearn is worried how things are going, this cost of living crisis is going to have a lot of impact and boxers with an over inflated opinion of their worth will be one of the victimsconeye wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 06:18 Makes me wonder if Hearn can see where boing is going ,, basicly outpricing itself and is putting his foot down on these big payments , just because some boxers want it ,, after all besides big money ppv status , they usually want and easy fight has well , Time to fix the rot
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
I can see Sky taking a chance and signing Saunders. They might fancy they can lore Eubank back over after the Benn fight to face him. TBF to Shalom, he has shown an impressive capability to get difficult deals over the line so far.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
It's all about money, BJS wants PPV money and Fast Car doesn't think that money will be generated.
In reality it only BJS v Eubank that would sell.
In reality it only BJS v Eubank that would sell.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
BJS is a helmet who couldn't sell out his Nan's front parlour.
Anybody who signs him will lose money, because he will expect big money for a load of old cack.
Anybody who signs him will lose money, because he will expect big money for a load of old cack.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
True.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 14:41 BJS is a helmet who couldn't sell out his Nan's front parlour.
Anybody who signs him will lose money, because he will expect big money for a load of old cack.
He got away with it when he had a belt but he will find things different now - at best he will get a shite offer (you know, the kind of offer his potential opponents used to get).
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
In the past, he always had that element of doubt in the punters mind, that his talent might outstrip his desire, and that if he just got himself right, he could pull off that big career defining win.bripez wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 15:50True.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022, 14:41 BJS is a helmet who couldn't sell out his Nan's front parlour.
Anybody who signs him will lose money, because he will expect big money for a load of old cack.
He got away with it when he had a belt but he will find things different now - at best he will get a shite offer (you know, the kind of offer his potential opponents used to get).
Now everybody knows he's not that calibre, he's good, maybe very good, but he's desperately boring to watch, and has the pesonality of a bag of catshit.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Promoters only dealt with BJS because they were waiting for the Canelo payday. That’s been and gone so he’s of no use. Unreliable , terrible attitude , can’t punch , doesn’t sell tickets , his social media.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Probs wants 5mil for fighting Ryder on DAZN PPV.
Guy is a bell. Hope he doesn’t reappear in the sport.
Guy is a bell. Hope he doesn’t reappear in the sport.
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
Fat billy joe vs Babic for the bridger weight world championship.
Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
BJS was best at 160, will be interesting where he fights next
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Re: Saunders, Matchroom Unable To Strike Deal For Comeback Fight, Hearn Open To Billy Joe Moving On
i wouldn't be surprised if BJS doesn't fight again, in his assumption that his worth and especially drawing power is greater than it is.
In a way I hope so, it would be the perfect, symmetrical, poetic ending to a career that epitomises modern boxing and all that is wrong with it.
In a way I hope so, it would be the perfect, symmetrical, poetic ending to a career that epitomises modern boxing and all that is wrong with it.
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