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gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 13:33 It hasn't been announced yet, but this is gonna be for Fury's vacated WBC Title. He will be stripped of it on the 26th. After the Joshua vs Usyk fight. Which is convenient obviously as it allows the WBC to make the belt available to their buddy Al Haymon's guy.

gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 17:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 13:33 It hasn't been announced yet, but this is gonna be for Fury's vacated WBC Title. He will be stripped of it on the 26th. After the Joshua vs Usyk fight. Which is convenient obviously as it allows the WBC to make the belt available to their buddy Al Haymon's guy.

It would be a disgrace if this is for the WBC belt rather than Joyce vs Parker.... But i tend to agree with your prediction.

A guy whos last win was nearly 3 years ago, vs a guy ranked number 10 by the WBC, for the vacant WBC belt... ewww.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 22:33 they once made their #6 vs #13 a final eliminator for wilder's belt

unsurprisingly both guys were pbc affiliated

the wbc love themselves some haymon heavies

gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 17:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 13:33 It hasn't been announced yet, but this is gonna be for Fury's vacated WBC Title. He will be stripped of it on the 26th. After the Joshua vs Usyk fight. Which is convenient obviously as it allows the WBC to make the belt available to their buddy Al Haymon's guy.

It would be a disgrace if this is for the WBC belt rather than Joyce vs Parker.... But i tend to agree with your prediction.

A guy whos last win was nearly 3 years ago, vs a guy ranked number 10 by the WBC, for the vacant WBC belt... ewww.

Controversial wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 13:28 Wilder looks like he's dropped some weight, I wonder if he will be back to the 210-215 region?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 13:35 Lighter and Faster is definitely the ticket for Wilder against Helenius. Helenius is a powerful dude, but has always been fairly slow and ponderous.

If Wilder is quicker (which he should be, bulk or not to be honest), chances are he gets there 1st, and it's over.

I look for Wilder to win by either 1st or 2nd round KO here. Maybe 4th or 5th if his timing is really badly off, which it might be at this point.

JxhDel. wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 18:47 Both guys can end this before the final bell. If Fury vacates the WBC title, they could set up the winner against either Parker/Joyce or Ruiz/Ortiz, for the vacant belt, with the latter being more convenient for PBC.

JxhDel. wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 18:47 Both guys can end this before the final bell. If Fury vacates the WBC title, they could set up the winner against either Parker/Joyce or Ruiz/Ortiz, for the vacant belt, with the latter being more convenient for PBC.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 04:19 “I only have until I’m 40,” said Deontay Wilder to spam. “I still want to continue my three fights a year. I’m young. I feel great. My pre-training camp has started. I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days.

“I’ve been here in Vegas with Don House and Malik Scott, JD, and all my team. It’s been a real treat. I haven’t made a decision yet, but most likely, I’ll be in camp,” said Wilder when asked if he’ll attend the September 4th fight between Andy Ruiz Jr and Luis Ortiz.

“You can’t take Robert Helenius lightly. He’s not one of those guys to look over. Many people might have a judgment when looking at him outside of the ring. Look, when you have a man that has a heart of gold and a warrior mindset and a warrior’s heart, it’s unpredictable what they can do.

“You can’t look past a man like that because with that heart; he fears nothing, especially not man. It’s do or die, and that’s what Robert has. He has a do-or-die mentality just like I. So, please, this is not going to be a light fight, and I am not taking it lightly.

“Again, understand; I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days. It’s really unheard of,” said Wilder about his preparation for his fight against Helenius.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 04:19 “I only have until I’m 40,” said Deontay Wilder to spam. “I still want to continue my three fights a year. I’m young. I feel great. My pre-training camp has started. I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days.

“I’ve been here in Vegas with Don House and Malik Scott, JD, and all my team. It’s been a real treat. I haven’t made a decision yet, but most likely, I’ll be in camp,” said Wilder when asked if he’ll attend the September 4th fight between Andy Ruiz Jr and Luis Ortiz.

“You can’t take Robert Helenius lightly. He’s not one of those guys to look over. Many people might have a judgment when looking at him outside of the ring. Look, when you have a man that has a heart of gold and a warrior mindset and a warrior’s heart, it’s unpredictable what they can do.

“You can’t look past a man like that because with that heart; he fears nothing, especially not man. It’s do or die, and that’s what Robert has. He has a do-or-die mentality just like I. So, please, this is not going to be a light fight, and I am not taking it lightly.

“Again, understand; I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days.,” said Wilder

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 11:07

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 04:19 “I only have until I’m 40,” said Deontay Wilder to spam. “I still want to continue my three fights a year. I’m young. I feel great. My pre-training camp has started. I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days.

“I’ve been here in Vegas with Don House and Malik Scott, JD, and all my team. It’s been a real treat. I haven’t made a decision yet, but most likely, I’ll be in camp,” said Wilder when asked if he’ll attend the September 4th fight between Andy Ruiz Jr and Luis Ortiz.

“You can’t take Robert Helenius lightly. He’s not one of those guys to look over. Many people might have a judgment when looking at him outside of the ring. Look, when you have a man that has a heart of gold and a warrior mindset and a warrior’s heart, it’s unpredictable what they can do.

“You can’t look past a man like that because with that heart; he fears nothing, especially not man. It’s do or die, and that’s what Robert has. He has a do-or-die mentality just like I. So, please, this is not going to be a light fight, and I am not taking it lightly.

“Again, understand; I’ve done 253 rounds in 11 days. It’s really unheard of,” said Wilder about his preparation for his fight against Helenius.

God it's painful listening to Wilder talk, he can barely string a cogent sentence together.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑24 Aug 2022, 11:11 Helenius has little chance of winning the fight. His footwork is poor, and he doesn't move his head very well.

Helenius is easy to hit, and although lacking in boxing skills, Wilder has one-punch KO power.

It would be a disgrace if this mismatch is for the WBC world title. They should have Wilder face the winner of Joyce vs Parker for the vacant title (if Fury stays retired).

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 15:23

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 09:04 Don't see why a comeback fight against Helenius should be PPV.

Should be on free Fox or just Showtime.

These networks don't want to pay these boxers, instead they expect us fans to folk out their purses.

Fat Andy and Father Time is PPV, for an eliminator, not even a belt.
Eubank Jr and Benn is a domestic fight without even having the domestic belt and that's PPV.

It's beyond a joke. Wilder the 2 time loser, and I would argue 3 time loser wasn't PPV before Fury, and certainly isn't after losing to him however many times.
They are taking the piss.